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re: Severe Weather 4/4-4/5 - severe storms ongoing from Arkansas to Michigan.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:00 am to BallHawg10
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:00 am to BallHawg10
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Severe Weather 4/4-4/5 - Moderate Risk today for parts of IL, IA, MO and AR.
This isn't good at all. The following is from Dennis Romero, on an NBC News report late yesterday:
Experts say the continental United States and the South in particular have the weather misfortune of being located where cold fronts from Canada and Pacific storms move south and east and clash with tropical air from the Gulf of Mexico, creating an annual cauldron of stormy weather.
But climate change could be making the extremes worse, resulting in colder cold fronts, stronger tornadoes, and bigger hailstones in spring as well as longer, hotter streaks in summer, they have said.
In mid-March, the National Atmospheric and Oceanic Administration published its spring outlook, which called for moderate to major flooding from Minneapolis to St. Louis even as drought continued in the northern and central Plains.
"Climate change is driving both wet and dry extremes," NOAA Administrator Rick Spinrad said in the outlook.
Weather, everywhere, is just getting more extreme, more unpredictable, more dangerous, and sadly, more deadly.
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:05 am to tarzana
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tarzana
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But climate change could be making the extremes worse
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:14 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted yesterday & I forgot to share it on here
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Evan Fisher
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49 years ago today: The 1974 Super Outbreak
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:16 am to Bobby OG Johnson
An epic, generational outbreak. Seems like we get one of those about every 40 years.
There was a major one in March 1932, and then the Super Outbreak of 1974, and then the Super Outbreak of 2011.
There was a major one in March 1932, and then the Super Outbreak of 1974, and then the Super Outbreak of 2011.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:23 am to Roll Tide Ravens
First warning of the day
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:41 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Did they drop that almost immediately?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:43 am to tarzana
You need to stay out of weather threads
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:59 am to notiger1997
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You need to stay out of weather threads
I would if I weren't personally impacted by the weather. Since November last year it's been one tornado warning after another, and hours spent in the bathroom in the interior of the house, with my dog. There's got to be more to life than that.
That doesn't even include that horrible cold wave right before Christmas!
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:01 am to tarzana
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hours spent in the bathroom in the interior of the house, with my dog. There's got to be more to life than that.
Yeah but you do that because of Covid anyways.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:04 am to tarzana
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The following is from Dennis Romero, on an NBC News report late yesterday:
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:04 am to tarzana
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That doesn't even include that horrible cold wave right before Christmas!
So......you just hate weather in general?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:08 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Supposed to be flying back to Little Rock from Houston at 8 pm for a 9:30 landing tonight. Best guess is I’m staying the night in Houston tonight. This is after that tornado ripped a mile from my house Friday and spent the weekend cleaning at friends impacted. This weather can go back to hell. Tired of it.
Sick that I won’t be home to be with the kids. They won’t sleep and neither will I.
Sick that I won’t be home to be with the kids. They won’t sleep and neither will I.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:14 am to tigerbandpiccolo
quote:judging by the weather services outputs the bad shite shouldnt start there until much later tonight. Id imagine you'd be fine to get home in plenty of time before shite started popping off, although I certainly understand playing it safe after what happened friday.
Supposed to be flying back to Little Rock from Houston at 8 pm for a 9:30 landing tonight. Best guess is I’m staying the night in Houston tonight. This is after that tornado ripped a mile from my house Friday and spent the weekend cleaning at friends impacted. This weather can go back to hell. Tired of it.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:19 am to Pedro
Is it safe to say the focal point for severe weather is shifting further away from the gulf coast this time of year?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:24 am to Jim Rockford
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Is it safe to say the focal point for severe weather is shifting further away from the gulf coast this time of year?
Not yet, that happens later in May as the jet stream shifts north and high pressure builds over the south.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:26 am to Jim Rockford
quote:usually mid/late april-mid may is when us lucky folk here in the central plains end up under the gun for everything
Is it safe to say the focal point for severe weather is shifting further away from the gulf coast this time of year?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:28 am to Bobby OG Johnson
That 1974 outbreak defied belief. Whole cities were destroyed and there were hundreds killed nationwide, and thousands injured in the carnage. I remember President Nixon traveling to Xenia, Ohio in the aftermath of a particularly wicked storm there, and saying the death and destruction there was more appalling than that during Cat 5 Hurricane Camille five years earlier.
The incredible thing was that these events occurred long before climate change really kicked in.
The incredible thing was that these events occurred long before climate change really kicked in.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:29 am to tarzana
I want to attempt to buffer some of Tarzana's hysterics.
This active period to open our early Spring severe weather season isn't unprecedented, nor has it not been accurately forecast leading into it. We're going to ignore the fact that it is/has been late March and early April, and that is traditionally a very active period for our areas.
What is contributing to this pattern, and is a major driver in where and why we have seen the activity we've seen so far this season, is the background state we are currently in. For the past three years we have been in a triple dip La Nina. That's three consecutive years of cooler than normal sea surface temps across the ENSO region of the Pacific Ocean.
What we have seen in the past few months is that La Nina beginning to transition from La Nina to Neutral, and eventually to El Nino. That transition, where we spend time in the ENSO Neutral phase has been linked to an active severe weather pattern across the very areas we have seen severe weather over the past several weeks.
If we add in some other factors, like the subtle ridging over the eastern US, the snowpack out west, and the drought busting rains that California and the desert SW have seen throughout the Winter and early Spring, we have the ingredients for an active severe weather season. Unfortunately, for those people across the Mississippi River Valley, north and South, that means they are in the crosshairs.
It just is what it is at this point. We have to deal with it the best we can.
This active period to open our early Spring severe weather season isn't unprecedented, nor has it not been accurately forecast leading into it. We're going to ignore the fact that it is/has been late March and early April, and that is traditionally a very active period for our areas.
What is contributing to this pattern, and is a major driver in where and why we have seen the activity we've seen so far this season, is the background state we are currently in. For the past three years we have been in a triple dip La Nina. That's three consecutive years of cooler than normal sea surface temps across the ENSO region of the Pacific Ocean.
What we have seen in the past few months is that La Nina beginning to transition from La Nina to Neutral, and eventually to El Nino. That transition, where we spend time in the ENSO Neutral phase has been linked to an active severe weather pattern across the very areas we have seen severe weather over the past several weeks.
If we add in some other factors, like the subtle ridging over the eastern US, the snowpack out west, and the drought busting rains that California and the desert SW have seen throughout the Winter and early Spring, we have the ingredients for an active severe weather season. Unfortunately, for those people across the Mississippi River Valley, north and South, that means they are in the crosshairs.
It just is what it is at this point. We have to deal with it the best we can.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:40 am to LegendInMyMind
80mph winds and 2" hail on that southern part of the blob of storms in IL.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 11:44 am to LegendInMyMind
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It just is what it is at this point. We have to deal with it the best we can.
The thing that’s been most noticeable here (Kentucky) is the wind. Getting the storms and occasional tornadoes haven’t been unusual per se. But we’ve had wind warnings and high wind warnings a lot in the last month or so.
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