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re: A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging

Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:45 am to
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8943 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:45 am to
In Pennsylvania they had signs that said, "Stay in Lane until the merge point than alternate."

If only people would do it
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23706 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:46 am to
The merge zipper is the correct way.

But, until everyone does it, it won't work. The majority of drivers has no clue how the zipper merge works.

You are blind if you believe that everyone racing up to the point of merge is doing it to "zipper merge." 90% are doing it because they don't want to wait in the line.

Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:47 am to
Yes but people still brandish a gun at me for it.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29787 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:48 am to
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There's a reason for a mile notice, which is to give drivers time to continue at normal speeds and find an appropriate sized gap to merge into.
Exactly. But the majority of the people in the closure lane don’t do that! They drive faster in the closure lane until the fricking last couple hundred feet and cut people off in the open lane causing them to brake, thus causing a traffic jam.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23706 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 am to
I have seen cops set up to defeat the zipper merge by moving everyone over early.

But, in a few instances, I have seen the cops directing the zipper merge, and it worked fairly decently.

Signage would help. "Stay in your lane, merge ahead" for starters. Then the zipper merge directives.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6838 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 am to
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Typical zipperhead thinking and practice:

Sees road sign, “Right Lane Closed 2 Miles Ahead. Merge Left.” Zipperhead thinks, “Oh, I’ll just hang out here in the right lane until the lane closure and the people in the left lane will slow down to let me in.”

Normal, rational person, same scenario: “”Oh I’ve got 2 miles to get in the left lane. After this car in the left lane passes me, I’m gonna merge into the left lane and maintain the speed of traffic.”


You're an idiot. You realize the scenario that you are claiming the normal rational person does, is zipper merging. That's the whole reason for a mile or more notice, it gives you time to pass or be passed and then merge, which may take the better part of a mile because of assholes that don't want to leave an opening for others to merge into.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23706 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Exactly. But the majority of the people in the closure lane don’t do that! They drive faster in the closure lane until the fricking last couple hundred feet and cut people off in the open lane causing them to brake, thus causing a traffic jam.


The only conclusion one can reach from this thread is that there are too many jackass drivers.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29787 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:51 am to
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In Pennsylvania they had signs that said, "Stay in Lane until the merge point than alternate."

If only people would do it
Also government, “Take your fricking vaccine, or else.”
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1901 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:51 am to
When traffic is slow and congested- Yes.
When traffic is flowing good- No. early merge every time.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13542 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:53 am to
Cool.

Now ask Indiana to tackle the dumbasses who block Siegen Lane daily because they feel they're entitled to cut across 5 lanes of traffic to head north on Airline.
30 yards from the intersection, of course.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
5031 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:54 am to
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At least once a week it seems, I would see someone trying to block someone from going down to end.


They would do the same thing back when I lived in Emerald Isle, NC going onto the bridge. Went from 2 lanes on to 1 lane and people would not zipper merge. This would cause a busy intersection to back up into the intersection blocking all traffic
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29787 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

You're an idiot. You realize the scenario that you are claiming the normal rational person does, is zipper merging. That's the whole reason for a mile or more notice, it gives you time to pass or be passed and then merge, which may take the better part of a mile because of assholes that don't want to leave an opening for others to merge into.
You're a fricking moron if you don’t think people wait until the last couple hundred feet to merge because they want to drive faster than the open lane.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
588 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:58 am to
In the past, we were all taught that in a merge situation there was a dominant lane and a feeder lane. Moving to the dominant lane early gave you the right to continue on unimpeded through the choke point. This created a long line of early compliers who felt they had purchased some ownership of the merge environment. However, this was causing long pileups and conflicts. It was not efficient. The legal situation is changing. In our parish, the dominant lane starts the merge and the feeder follows in continuing rotations. This is now legally required. What some of you Luddites fail to understand is that we live in the digital age and your failure to comply will catch up with you in short order. Don't want to zipper? Enjoy being listed as Driver 1 on that accident report. Enjoy the ticket. It is a new age. Adapt.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18394 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:00 am to
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Don't want to zipper? Enjoy being listed as Driver 1 on that accident report. Enjoy the ticket. It is a new age. Adapt.



"I'm just gon tell that there sheriff that it ain't RIGHT that i gotta do some commie cuck merge!"
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98454 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:00 am to
in moving traffic, fine. If one lane is stopped, frick letting people coast up in the other land and jump ahead.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by zeto
BR
Member since Oct 2006
1218 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:02 am to
quote:

When traffic is slow and congested- Yes.
When traffic is flowing good- No. early merge every time.


This
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:04 am to
Early merging is just zipper merging! Just at a point that leaves room for error (someone who has to brake, etc.). You zip at the last minute then a single driving f**k up causes both lanes to seize up. I drive Houston traffic every damn day. 95% of people will let every other car go. That one a-hole who tries to fit two in from his lane, wrecks everything.

Zipper merging is as useful as the people who implement it. And on a good day, maybe 20% of the population aren't morons.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98454 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:05 am to
As Clausewitz once said, traffic is war by other means.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42968 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:11 am to
At what point do you begin your outrage>>
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Right Lane closed: 1 mile
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Right lane closed: 1/2 mile
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Right lane closed: 1000 feet
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now - within a few car lengths = then OK (after sizing up the left hand drivers to ID idiots with a dumbass hard-on for those doing it the right way.)

Rushing to jump over into the left lane only lengthens the line for everyone - and wastes a LOT of everyone's time.

the entire traffic pattern is improved by waiting until the last moment before merging.

Otherwise you are letting all that usable roadway remain vacant when it is needed the most.

The warning signs are just informing you of upcoming conditions - so you can prepare to merge. It is not a command to 'get over quick' - and anyone who does that is the real dumbass.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 11:19 am
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4433 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:29 am to
quote:

A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging
A reminder to you that this is America. We don't share, and we don't take turns. I didn't buy an F-250 duallie to just let some pissant get in front of me.
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