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Are superhero movies finally wearing out their welcome?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:55 am
In the past year
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:56 am to Frac the world
I hope so, but studios will have no idea what else to produce
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:57 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:58 am to Frac the world
quote:
In the past year
Black Adam - dogshit and underperformed
Multiverse of Madness - very, very meh
Thor - dogshit
Ant-man - dogshit and underperformed bigly
Black panther - very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
Shazam fury of the woke - dogshit and headed for a colossal bomb
They need to take a 10 year break on this shite. It’s quickly become watery dog shite and the box office numbers show it.
If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
To me, I think it's more that shitty movies are wearing out their welcome. The quality of the Marvel movies since Endgame just hasn't been good. If they got back to the basics like they did early in the MCU then the movies would likely perform better.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:00 pm to Frac the world
Being superhero movies isn't what caused these to flop. There's another glaringly obvious similarity. It rhymes with "poke" and "swirl shower".
Star Wars properties are suffering the same fate.
Hmm, wonder what they have in common?
Give us a good superhero movie. Along the lines of Marvel phase 1 and 2 stuff. Stuff like the Netflix versions of Punisher and Dare Devil. People will eat it up.
Star Wars properties are suffering the same fate.
Hmm, wonder what they have in common?
Give us a good superhero movie. Along the lines of Marvel phase 1 and 2 stuff. Stuff like the Netflix versions of Punisher and Dare Devil. People will eat it up.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:04 pm to Frac the world
I think all eyes will be on GOTG 3. I still think it'll be huge, but if that one has a mediocre box office then there's a real problem with this genre.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:09 pm to Frac the world
It's more "lack of effort put into making good movies" than simply 'superhero movies."
Disney (especially) seemed to stop caring about making movies that are high in quality and that people want to see. Instead, they make movies that they pretend people are clamoring for, and when the masses don't show up they whine like bitches and claim some random woke buzzword to the people that didn't want to see a shitty product ("racists," "bigots," etc.).
If they actually put efforts back into making QUALITY movies/shows, people would go watch them. But until that happens, they'll just have to play stupid and pretend to not understand why they are hemorrhaging money.
ETA: I will say too that their decisions on which ones to move forward with were mindboggling to someone like me who has zero attachments to comic characters. Half of them I had never heard of, and the other half were characters I didn't give a shite about (and not "mainstream" names like Captain America, Hulk, etc.).
When it first was announced Phase 4 (or whatever one was after Endgame), I let out a gigantic MEH and assumed I wouldn't really watch any of them.
Outside of the new Spiderman trilogy (and really mainly the No Way Home one), nothing of the superhero genre has interested me. No Way Home was pretty awesome though.
Disney (especially) seemed to stop caring about making movies that are high in quality and that people want to see. Instead, they make movies that they pretend people are clamoring for, and when the masses don't show up they whine like bitches and claim some random woke buzzword to the people that didn't want to see a shitty product ("racists," "bigots," etc.).
If they actually put efforts back into making QUALITY movies/shows, people would go watch them. But until that happens, they'll just have to play stupid and pretend to not understand why they are hemorrhaging money.
ETA: I will say too that their decisions on which ones to move forward with were mindboggling to someone like me who has zero attachments to comic characters. Half of them I had never heard of, and the other half were characters I didn't give a shite about (and not "mainstream" names like Captain America, Hulk, etc.).
When it first was announced Phase 4 (or whatever one was after Endgame), I let out a gigantic MEH and assumed I wouldn't really watch any of them.
Outside of the new Spiderman trilogy (and really mainly the No Way Home one), nothing of the superhero genre has interested me. No Way Home was pretty awesome though.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:11 pm to Frac the world
if the movies are good people will see them.
Look at Spider-Man NWH and Joker.
It is just the writing has been so bad on the last few movies. Even Spider-Man had some pretty glaring plot contrivances but still found a way to make an entertaining movie.
Thor 4, Wonder Woman 2, Ant Man 3, Dr Strange 2, and Black Adam just had terrible writing to go along with a great premise
Look at Spider-Man NWH and Joker.
It is just the writing has been so bad on the last few movies. Even Spider-Man had some pretty glaring plot contrivances but still found a way to make an entertaining movie.
Thor 4, Wonder Woman 2, Ant Man 3, Dr Strange 2, and Black Adam just had terrible writing to go along with a great premise
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:12 pm to Frac the world
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If GotG 3 is a mediocre too that officially sticks the knife in it.
While it might not break records, GotG 3 is going to do extremely well (and then Gunn leaves for the opposition ).
The Marvels bombing in the Fall will probably do Feige in and there will be a complete housecleaning.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:24 pm to Frac the world
Even though I wish they would mostly go the way of the DoDo, they are still pound-for-pound the most reliable and profitable genre of film in the world(I guess besides James Cameron films, but he's a once-a-decade guy).
They just are no longer at their apex.
Thor, MoM, Black Panther, all still made money. Ant-Man probably breaks even. DC universe is mostly shite, no change there.
The moment a new Batman or Spiderman, or the inevitable Xmen Reboot bombs, I'll buy the "stick a knife in them" rhetoric, until then, they will continue to be the largest genre of blockbuster releases in Hollywood annually.
They just are no longer at their apex.
Thor, MoM, Black Panther, all still made money. Ant-Man probably breaks even. DC universe is mostly shite, no change there.
The moment a new Batman or Spiderman, or the inevitable Xmen Reboot bombs, I'll buy the "stick a knife in them" rhetoric, until then, they will continue to be the largest genre of blockbuster releases in Hollywood annually.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:25 pm to Frac the world
god i hope so.
that would mean i've successfully waited this thing out without watching any of them since superman 2
that would mean i've successfully waited this thing out without watching any of them since superman 2
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:33 pm to Frac the world
I know Antman underperformed, but what makes it dogshit? I thought it was really enjoyable, and Marvel's best post Endgame movie outside of Spiderman.
It made 850 million, and that's after it lost it leading star. I'd say the movie did just as expected.
Dr Strange movie, while being a letdown in quality. Still brought in damn near a billion dollars.
I think Infinity War and Endgame has warped people's minds a little bit. Those movies hitting 2 billion was a massive outlier. Most movies made about 600-900 million besides the large team-up films.
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very, very meh and underperformed relative to first one
It made 850 million, and that's after it lost it leading star. I'd say the movie did just as expected.
Dr Strange movie, while being a letdown in quality. Still brought in damn near a billion dollars.
I think Infinity War and Endgame has warped people's minds a little bit. Those movies hitting 2 billion was a massive outlier. Most movies made about 600-900 million besides the large team-up films.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:42 pm to Frac the world
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Are superhero movies finally wearing out their welcome?
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In the past year
No, it was when MCU phase 2 began ten years ago.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:54 pm to Frac the world
The last Spider-Man did pretty good. It’s just crap movies being released
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:11 pm to Frac the world
DC/Warner Bros need to give up and focus their efforts elsewhere.
Marvel/Disney should go to 1 movie a year for about 3 years and see how it goes. I know this stuff is planned way in advance though.
Marvel/Disney should go to 1 movie a year for about 3 years and see how it goes. I know this stuff is planned way in advance though.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 2:36 pm to Frac the world
If they aimed the movies at 12-15 yr old boys instead of 30 yr old militant lesbians these movies would still be printing money.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:50 pm to Frac the world
I've been tired of them for about 10 years now.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:56 pm to Frac the world
It's because the quality has dipped tremendously.
I say this a lot but its true, everything we got in the MCU up to Endgame was an amalgamation of the 'greatest hits' of Marvel. Except Captain Marvel, D list character that was never ever popular pushed as some sort of icon - that was when the 'rot' started setting in but at least we got what we got. These were approximations of popular runs and stories. like i said, 'greatest hits'
Everything after Endgame made by Disney was shlock based off post-2012 comics which gave us stuff nobody liked like lady thor, ironheart, and when the overall quality of the writing took a fricking nose dive.
What blows my mind is they have 50+ years of marvel comics stories to pull from, some great stories in there ... But they were in a mad rush to get to the post 2012 garbage so they could start smelling their own farts.
I say this a lot but its true, everything we got in the MCU up to Endgame was an amalgamation of the 'greatest hits' of Marvel. Except Captain Marvel, D list character that was never ever popular pushed as some sort of icon - that was when the 'rot' started setting in but at least we got what we got. These were approximations of popular runs and stories. like i said, 'greatest hits'
Everything after Endgame made by Disney was shlock based off post-2012 comics which gave us stuff nobody liked like lady thor, ironheart, and when the overall quality of the writing took a fricking nose dive.
What blows my mind is they have 50+ years of marvel comics stories to pull from, some great stories in there ... But they were in a mad rush to get to the post 2012 garbage so they could start smelling their own farts.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:09 pm to Frac the world
Its not superhero movies, its the message that they tried to force feed you with it that wore out its welcome. This period of SJW Superheroes is the spaghettis western of our age.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:13 am to Frac the world
The Batman was really really good
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