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Progressives have a new minimum wage goal: $20 and up
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:38 am
An intraparty fight has broken out in New York over the state’s minimum wage laws and how to get more money to the lowest-paid workers without hurting businesses, portending similar skirmishes across the country in the coming years.
The debate is rekindling divisions among Democrats in Albany, pitting liberal lawmakers against their more centrist colleagues and highlighting fissures that have emerged in Democratic strongholds elsewhere, particularly in areas with some of the country’s highest costs of living.
Moderate Gov. Kathy Hochul — still bruised by an unflattering election performance and losing a judicial standoff with lawmakers — this year proposed pegging the state’s minimum wage to inflation, while capping year-over-year increases to 3 percent or less. The state already requires a minimum wage of $15 per hour in and around New York City and $14.20 upstate.
The Legislature last week symbolically rejected Hochul’s plan for not going far enough, raising the stakes of negotiations over the state budget due by April.
A decade after the so-called Fight for $15 campaign took root and won minimum wage hikes in some of the biggest states, liberal lawmakers and progressive activists are now aiming higher: $20 per hour or more.
California, Washington state and the District of Columbia have already edged beyond the $15 threshold, as of January. And activists are launching lobbying campaigns in more statehouses, hoping to push the minimum wage as high as $22 per hour in coming years. Others are pushing to index state minimum wages to inflation.
Among states without such caps, Washington state’s minimum wage for 2023 jumped $1.25, to $15.74, after it calculated a nearly 8.7 percent adjustment over the prior year, and Colorado’s surged by a similar percentage.
Ramos sponsors an alternative proposal that, by 2026, would raise New York’s minimum wage to $21.25 downstate and $20 elsewhere, before tagging on a less-rigid means of indexing future increases.
For instance, lawmakers in Massachusetts cut a deal in 2018 to gradually step up its minimum wage to $15-per-hour by this year. Already, members of the coalition that led the effort, Raise Up Massachusetts, are gaming out a new target.
“The baseline a decade ago is not a living wage for those in Massachusetts in any way,” Marlishia Aho, a spokesperson for one of the unions in the coalition said. “It’s so important that we have a minimum wage that is keeping up with inflation and the cost of living.”
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The debate is rekindling divisions among Democrats in Albany, pitting liberal lawmakers against their more centrist colleagues and highlighting fissures that have emerged in Democratic strongholds elsewhere, particularly in areas with some of the country’s highest costs of living.
Moderate Gov. Kathy Hochul — still bruised by an unflattering election performance and losing a judicial standoff with lawmakers — this year proposed pegging the state’s minimum wage to inflation, while capping year-over-year increases to 3 percent or less. The state already requires a minimum wage of $15 per hour in and around New York City and $14.20 upstate.
The Legislature last week symbolically rejected Hochul’s plan for not going far enough, raising the stakes of negotiations over the state budget due by April.
A decade after the so-called Fight for $15 campaign took root and won minimum wage hikes in some of the biggest states, liberal lawmakers and progressive activists are now aiming higher: $20 per hour or more.
California, Washington state and the District of Columbia have already edged beyond the $15 threshold, as of January. And activists are launching lobbying campaigns in more statehouses, hoping to push the minimum wage as high as $22 per hour in coming years. Others are pushing to index state minimum wages to inflation.
Among states without such caps, Washington state’s minimum wage for 2023 jumped $1.25, to $15.74, after it calculated a nearly 8.7 percent adjustment over the prior year, and Colorado’s surged by a similar percentage.
Ramos sponsors an alternative proposal that, by 2026, would raise New York’s minimum wage to $21.25 downstate and $20 elsewhere, before tagging on a less-rigid means of indexing future increases.
For instance, lawmakers in Massachusetts cut a deal in 2018 to gradually step up its minimum wage to $15-per-hour by this year. Already, members of the coalition that led the effort, Raise Up Massachusetts, are gaming out a new target.
“The baseline a decade ago is not a living wage for those in Massachusetts in any way,” Marlishia Aho, a spokesperson for one of the unions in the coalition said. “It’s so important that we have a minimum wage that is keeping up with inflation and the cost of living.”
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:39 am to Jbird
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Moderate Gov. Kathy Hochul

Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:40 am to Jbird
McDonald's employees deserve the same quality of life as professionals. It's just the right thing to do.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:42 am to Jbird
Why not $50? Wouldn't that be a better living wage?
Why not $75?
$100?
Other than, "That's too much to demand so fast," there's no logical reason $20 makes sense other than it was what was yanked out of their asses.
Why not $75?
$100?
Other than, "That's too much to demand so fast," there's no logical reason $20 makes sense other than it was what was yanked out of their asses.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:42 am to Jbird
These dumbasses completely miss the purpose of minimum wage jobs.
My first real job I made $4.25/hr literally digging ditches.
It taught me I didn't want to make 4.25/hr or dig ditches the rest of my life.
My first real job I made $4.25/hr literally digging ditches.
It taught me I didn't want to make 4.25/hr or dig ditches the rest of my life.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:43 am to Jbird
They literally lack the concept of cause and effect. Its like they only think one move ahead at all times,its really baffling.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:45 am to Jbird
They are only screwing the people who they claim to be protecting out of jobs.
These workers all do frontline jobs (point of sale, cooking, etc.) that can easily be automated. Fast food is transitioning to automation with McDonalds leading the way, others will follow.
These workers all do frontline jobs (point of sale, cooking, etc.) that can easily be automated. Fast food is transitioning to automation with McDonalds leading the way, others will follow.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:45 am to GeauxTigerTM
McDonald's is already working on their ad campaign, the value menu is now called paying the pimple faced kid menu
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:51 am to Jbird
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how to get more money to the lowest-paid workers without hurting businesses
This is not possible lol
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:57 am to Jbird
There is no compromising with them. They’ll always want more. Draw a line in the sand and stand firm.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:59 am to Jbird
Minimum wage is a good and necessary thing, but I honestly think it needs to be set at the city level. Working and living in NYC requires a different minimum wage that working and living in Alabama. If we set ours too low, or if NYC sets theirs too high, the market will adjust. Businesses will come there, or they will leave.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:00 am to Jbird
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Progressives have a new minimum wage goal: $20 and up
They truly just do not understand.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:01 am to Jbird
I'm sure the people who are currently making $20/hour are thrilled to have their hard work devalued. They thought they finally worked their way up and now they're on the bottom tier with window licker burger flippers.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:07 am to Smeg
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I'm sure the people who are currently making $20/hour are thrilled to have their hard work devalued. They thought they finally worked their way up and now they're on the bottom tier with window licker burger flippers.
Well the logic that people working minimum wage are underpaid also leads you to almost everyone being underpaid if you follow that logic to its conclusion.
You can train a guy on a fast food position in a day. He won't be great at it for a while, but he can do it well enough that the place isn't at risk of shutting down while hes on the clock. If someone you can replace with literally anyone off the street makes $20 an hour, a medical coder or something making $20 an hour currently in theory should get a raise because they are bringing skills to the table. Would they in practice get a raise? Probably not. And if they did it wouldn't be a $7.25 to $20 type raise.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:07 am to Thoresten
I’ve said many times These fool can’t see past the end of there nose, there just fricking dumb.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:08 am to Thoresten
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They literally lack the concept of cause and effect. Its like they only think one move ahead at all times,its really baffling.
One robotic fry cook costs around $30k per year. Each restaurant needs only one, and that cost will be coming down as more chains adopt the technology.
The national average wage of a fast-food worker is $12/hr or $25k per year (without even considering things such as payroll taxes, benefits, insurance, workman's comp, etc.). Bump that hourly rate up to $20/hr and that number balloons to $41k!
So you have a franchise owner faced with the decision to hire multiple employees to man the fry station at $41k per year each, or you can have one robot do it all for $30k.
It's a no-brainer and it really shows just how dumbshit stupid liberals are.

Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:08 am to Jbird
Should we include the tweets of Californians tagging @POTUS in tweets bemoaning a single McDonald's hash brown being $4?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:10 am to Jbird
Why not $50 or $100 per hour to flip burgers!
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:10 am to bamarep
Made $7.00 a hour in HS and College. Just enough money to pay for gas and plenty to tell me that ain’t no way to make a living.
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