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Ships of The Line - 1800
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:22 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:22 am
Must of have been a daunting, exciting, adventure: to be on one of these world class marvels of engineering battleships of its era.
"At the height of the Napoleonic Wars, around 145,000 men served in Britain's Royal Navy, a number comparable to European field armies of the period. Ships of the line like HMS Victory required huge crews not so much to sail her, as to man her heavy guns. At the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, she had 820 men aboard...."
HMS Victory 1 (Epic History)
HMS Victory 2 (Epic History)
How an 18th Century Sailing Battleship Works LINK
Replica French frigate sets sail for America
Whose journeys, quests, and triumphs can be captured in such epic dramas as the game Anno 1800 and the movie Master and Commander.
"Salt, sea, sail, godly wind, sparking gunpowder and
divine conquest. We hovered over the oceans, riding them like great steppe warriors of the past"
The (HMS Victory) ship had 104 guns, 27 miles of rigging and four acres of sail.
"But the best of friends must part, fair or foul the weather.
Hand yer flipper for a shake, now a drink together.
Long we've tossed on the rolling main, now we're safe ashore, Jack.
Don't forget yer old shipmate, faldee raldee raldee raldee rye-eye-doe!
Long we've tossed on the rolling main, now we're safe ashore, Jack.
Don't forget yer old shipmate, faldee raldee raldee raldee rye-eye-doe!"
"At the height of the Napoleonic Wars, around 145,000 men served in Britain's Royal Navy, a number comparable to European field armies of the period. Ships of the line like HMS Victory required huge crews not so much to sail her, as to man her heavy guns. At the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, she had 820 men aboard...."
HMS Victory 1 (Epic History)
HMS Victory 2 (Epic History)
How an 18th Century Sailing Battleship Works LINK
Replica French frigate sets sail for America
Whose journeys, quests, and triumphs can be captured in such epic dramas as the game Anno 1800 and the movie Master and Commander.
"Salt, sea, sail, godly wind, sparking gunpowder and
divine conquest. We hovered over the oceans, riding them like great steppe warriors of the past"
The (HMS Victory) ship had 104 guns, 27 miles of rigging and four acres of sail.
"But the best of friends must part, fair or foul the weather.
Hand yer flipper for a shake, now a drink together.
Long we've tossed on the rolling main, now we're safe ashore, Jack.
Don't forget yer old shipmate, faldee raldee raldee raldee rye-eye-doe!
Long we've tossed on the rolling main, now we're safe ashore, Jack.
Don't forget yer old shipmate, faldee raldee raldee raldee rye-eye-doe!"
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Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:34 am to BlackPawnMartyr
The last few months I’ve been reading about the British Royal Navy in the 19C.
A lot of interesting history, rabbit holes, and interesting characters.
A lot of interesting history, rabbit holes, and interesting characters.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:38 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Impressed to see a Martin Wallace board game mentioned here!
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:05 am to meeple
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:15 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Your really thinking of ships from the 1700s here really. Most of the Napoleon I’ve war ships were created in the 1700s.
The HMS Victory construction started in the 1750s
1500s-1700s was when ship construction was real neat.
Not too far into the 1800s, you really started seeing a simplifying of the ships. Longer, lower in the water, smaller crews.
The HMS Victory construction started in the 1750s
1500s-1700s was when ship construction was real neat.
Not too far into the 1800s, you really started seeing a simplifying of the ships. Longer, lower in the water, smaller crews.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:20 am to athenslife101
It’s always funny to think that the English and the Dutch hated each other in the 1600s and 1700s and fought three wars against each other
From 1650:
From 1650:
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:33 am to BlackPawnMartyr
One of the biggest Hollywood disappointments is that they never made the M&C sequel.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:46 am to Snipe
quote:
...never made the M&C sequel.
Too many white males for today's Hollywood.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:47 am to Snipe
General rule that anytime you work with water, you can expect to at least double your budget through water related issues
Master and Commander cost 150,000,000 to make and only made 90,000,000 in the US and 100,000,000 internationally. With marketing costs (not factored into budget), it probably made a bit of money but not enough to really inspire the studio to cough up another 100,000,000 budget when you can get far better returns for far less
Master and Commander cost 150,000,000 to make and only made 90,000,000 in the US and 100,000,000 internationally. With marketing costs (not factored into budget), it probably made a bit of money but not enough to really inspire the studio to cough up another 100,000,000 budget when you can get far better returns for far less
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 5:51 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:50 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Theare two good series of historical fiction on the Royal Navy. Patrick O'Brian wrote the Jack Aubrey series (from which M&C was made) and Alexander Kent wrote the Richard Bolitho series which take place at about the time of the war with the American colonies.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:36 am to BlackPawnMartyr
The Hornblower series by C.S. Forester follows a British Naval officer's career from midshipmen to admiral. It's pretty good historic fiction if you like old naval stuff.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:54 am to Mr Happy
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atrick O'Brian wrote the Jack Aubrey series (from which M&C was made) and Alexander Kent wrote the Richard Bolitho series which take place at about the time of the war with the American colonies.
Another good sailing series: C.S Forester's books based on that time period following the career of a British naval officer Horatio Hornblower.
As rich in sailing details and naval battles as O'Brien's also featuring some glimpses into international politics still relevant today. Hornblower dispatched to Central America to deal with a dictator named El Supremo who is playing European and American powers off each other.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:55 am to BlackPawnMartyr
The UK’s Royal Maritime Museum in Greenwich would interest you folk. The have Lord Nelson’s clothes from his very good/very bad day at Trafalgar on display there.
And thousands of more things of interest.
National Maritime Museum Link
And thousands of more things of interest.
National Maritime Museum Link
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:00 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Read about America's frigates. Excellent book.
Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the US Navy
Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the US Navy
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:02 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Okay. You have my heart in this thread. Can we talk about sea shanties and how cool they are? Keeping dozens of men, on different parts of the ship, moving and pulling and pushing in time to harness great forces, like a maritime orchestra.
Also, the defeat of the Spanish Armada may have been the most pivotal naval event in history.
The English colonies could have gone to Spain and the fledging English empire never have really taken off like it did.
Also, the defeat of the Spanish Armada may have been the most pivotal naval event in history.
The English colonies could have gone to Spain and the fledging English empire never have really taken off like it did.
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 7:05 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:09 am to BlackPawnMartyr
Living on a floating tinderbox with hundreds of men for months on end seems like it must have been hell on earth.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:14 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Don’t forget sharing it with the vermin and their hangers-ons.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:16 am to athenslife101
I watched this a couple of days ago.
How an 18th Century warship functions.
Really good video, impressed with marine engineering in the 1700s.
Edit: Missed it, already posted in the OP
How an 18th Century warship functions.
Really good video, impressed with marine engineering in the 1700s.
Edit: Missed it, already posted in the OP
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 7:19 am
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
Warships and maritime engineering have always been the most expensive and the most cutting edge technological front for men.
I'd argue that it still is. The USN has an absolutely colossal budget.
I'd argue that it still is. The USN has an absolutely colossal budget.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:23 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Living on a floating tinderbox with hundreds of men for months on end seems like it must have been hell on earth.
For a lot of these guys, either that or the slums. I am not sure which I would prefer.
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