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If homosexuals are “born that way”

Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30191 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:06 pm
Then it’s a genetic trait. And if it’s a genetic trait wouldn’t have evolution made that characteristic “extinct” since homosexuals would obviously be procreating less prolifically than heterosexuals?

Anyone care to explain this to me?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:07 pm to
Homosexuality occurs in many species.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62734 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:08 pm to
It’s not genetic.
Posted by Huskertiger2
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2020
757 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:08 pm to
If it’s a recessive trait it wouldn’t be. Same reason there are genetic diseases that kill children before they are able to reproduce
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124713 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

If homosexuals are “born that way”
Then it’s a genetic trait.
Isolated twin studies call that assumption to question.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19627 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:09 pm to
Mental Disorder


You are welcome.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73814 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:11 pm to
people are born with mental illness and brain defects, chemical imbalances all the time.

shite look at these TRANS WHACKOS who instead of getting mental help rather mutilate themselves.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46720 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:18 pm to
If there was 100% a gay gene discovered and there was a genetic treatment to correct the genetic defect you would see the gay community and their Woke supporters lose their shite.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:19 pm to
You are about 10 years late.

They had realized that there is no genetic way to "prove" homosexuality is a trait so that is why they went the gender-fluidity/gender-identification route.
Posted by TxRan2020
Texas
Member since May 2020
585 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:21 pm to
I’ve always thought they MUST be born that way & can’t help it because I know I was born attracted to the opposite sex & there’s no way I would ever want to be sexual with the same sex. I don’t really know though-I just know in my case I couldn’t change even if it was “wrong”
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20062 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:21 pm to
Nature or nurture explains groomers.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45623 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:22 pm to
What if men have evolved in such a way as to avoid women’s bull shite?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Then it’s a genetic trait. And if it’s a genetic trait wouldn’t have evolution made that characteristic “extinct” since homosexuals would obviously be procreating less prolifically than heterosexuals?

Anyone care to explain this to me?
The research tends to indicate that there are a number of factors. Yes, there are a number of genetic markers that strongly associate with homosexuality. There are also indications that exposure to unusual hormone levels in utero may play a factor. It also seems clear that post-natal environmental factors can play a role. It seems that the genetic factors in particular may PREDISPOSE one to be gay, but they certainly do not mandate it.

Your question seems to be most-tied to the genetic element. If those markers were located on the Y chromosome and associated ONLY with male homosexuality, you might be correct and homosexuality would "die out" in a few generations. But the same genetic markers are also closely associated with a number of positive factors when present in females. I am not taking the time to find the data for you, but my recollection is that females with those markers tend to have (among other things) higher fertility rates.

So, the male homosexuals (obviously) are not passing those markers to the next generation in great numbers, but their straight sisters ARE doing so.

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EDIT

Here and here are a couple of summaries of the study, which seems to have been conducted in 2004.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 10:47 pm
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25969 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:26 pm to
There are many reasons people engage in homosexuality. Every other opinion is nonsense. I know two women who became lesbians after horrible abusive marriages. Both have kids. Knew another kid growing who we all knew would smoke pole when he was older and sure enough is a homo. He has two brothers both are straight as arrow. I’m sure these kids today on social media think it’s cool to be a ghey so they convince themselves they are and get the attention they are looking for.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28379 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Then it’s a genetic trait. And if it’s a genetic trait wouldn’t have evolution made that characteristic “extinct” since homosexuals would obviously be procreating less prolifically than heterosexuals?

Anyone care to explain this to me?


It is a genetic safety mechanism to keep genetically mentally fricked up individuals from reproducing.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
26118 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:32 pm to

Don't know that it's entirely genetic. Might just be a recessive gene that crops up from time to time, like so many others. Just because the individual may not reproduce doesn't mean the gene gets ended.
Posted by Taketts
Member since Feb 2023
117 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:32 pm to
Homosexuals are born that way. I would know that since I'm one.

The best possible proof for that is this: Why would people in places like Saudi Arabia decide to be gay if they weren't born that way? Condemning yourself to a life of suffering and fear just for the hell of it?
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263364 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:36 pm to
Gayness is the least of my worries.

As long as they aren't hurting kids and aren't politically retarded, I'm good.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17564 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:46 pm to
There are some rare combinations out there too. I was originally the 3rd from youngest out of the 1st cousin generation. Now due to my 4 months younger cousin dying a couple years ago from a one off rare genetic combination, I am 2nd from youngest.

His genetic combination is a known rarity (I forget the name of the condition) that usually kills, by stroke, in the late 30's to mid 40's. He made it to just short of 55 with no idea he had it until it hit. We still have no idea which side of the family contributed to what either as his eldest brother, the dentist, subsequently paid for everyone in their family (down to Aunt's great grandchildren) to get tested for it. Deceased cousin is the only one with a trace of it at all. No others in the 1st cousin generation have even had strokes, heart attacks; yes, strokes; nada.

So I can envision a rare genetic combo causing 3% or fewer adults to be homo. However, I have yet to see the gene combo identified, or even hinted at. So yeah, "skeptic" (as in laughingly doubtful) present and accounted for.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:55 pm to
Homosexuality is caused by liking Hank's posts.

Besides, no one thinks gays are born that way anymore. That's why they want us to date trannies, which would require us to turn gay.
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