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Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:02 pm to burger bearcat
You're right. He better be way to the right of Trump if he wants to shed any thought that he is nothing more than a globalist in sheep's clothing cuck beholden to the uniparty and WEF. Then if he wins he better govern the same way. Me personally I'm highly suspicious of his ties to all these globalists and RINO cucks. He's got some proving to do.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:03 pm to rooster108bm
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If you don't understand that border being wide open as a fricking major issue then maybe you are the lemming.
You think DeSantis is pushing for open borders? Is that the position you're wanting to take here?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:05 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You think DeSantis is pushing for open borders? Is that the position you're wanting to take here?
I didn't say he was jackass. You said it's not a major issue and you don't care about it.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:08 pm to burger bearcat
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1) Covid/vaccines
They might bicker about this and it will go back and forth but not much ground will be made on this issue.
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2) Immigration
Probably a tie on this issue but I don't see wall construction under Ron. Don will definitely continue to build the wall.
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3) Globalism
Ron will have to defend his globalists record on the issue of TTP. He voted to give Obama fast track authority. TPP abdicates our sovereignty to a global alliance of trading partners. The alliance makes the rules instead of our elected representatives. Not good and that's why Trump killed it. Ron will have to defend that vote.
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4) ESG
Probably a tie on this issue.
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5) Shrimking the federal government
Platitudes from both. No president can shrink federal government alone. That has to come from congress.
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6) MIC and the CIA
I think you already see where Trump stands on these issue. He is the enemy of MIC and the CIA. MIC and the CIA want Ron waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Don.
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7) Big tech and AI
Another example of where Trump is the archenemy of big tech. In fact so much of an enemy he made his own social media platform. IDK about AI.
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8) Transhumanism
Probably a tie on this issue.
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9) American surveillance state/ FBI
We know were Trump stands on this. He been talking about the FBI sying on his campaign since 2017. IDK were Ron stands on this.
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10) Mistreatment of Jan6ers and other American Citizens
Don will probably pardon everyone. IDK what Ron will do.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:09 pm to KAGTASTIC
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I can't remember, but doesn't Desantis have to step down as gvnr first?
Yes. Unless the Florida legislature changes the law for him.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:11 pm to GumboPot
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American surveillance state/ FBI
I have total faith in the guy that hired Chris Wray
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:11 pm to GumboPot
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5) Shrimking the federal government
Platitudes from both. No president can shrink federal government alone. That has to come from congress.
I’d settle for hearing “platitudes” non-stop on this issue from whoever’s in the Oval Office.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:11 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, they aren't. Most of the lemmings who get worked up about them can't even articulate what their issues are.
It is literally about deciding whether we are a country or just a vassal state. You cannot be a legitimate sovereign country, if you don't have borders, a shared culture, and plan to assimilate to immigrants into a shared culture. There is also no point in being a country if your people are just going to be mindless consumers and there is no manufacturing base. I get that the outsourcing and globalization is good for helping some rich f*cks make a couple extra bucks so they can go on more ski trips to Jackson Hole, but for the middle class blue collar guy in Indiana, he gets nothing out of that.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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the grifted don't know any better.
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DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:14 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Well its clear who you supported at this point. No need to take you serious at all 
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I’d settle for hearing “platitudes” non-stop on this issue from whoever’s in the Oval Office.
Maybe Trump's promise of schedule F is a bit more than just talk. It would cause A LOT of turmoil in DC so I just don't see it getting executed but a schedule F would reduce the federal government.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:15 pm to burger bearcat
quote:That would be good timing for RDD, IMO. Let Trump punch at air for several months. Get a sense as to where the attacks will come. Formulate and pretest responses. Select the most effective surrogates.
I don't think DeSantis announces until after the legislative session, which would be in June.
In the end, Trump's most effective attack will be RDD's indebtedness to donors. RDD had better spend the next several months sorting out ways to defuse that, or effectively counterattack.
Assuming the DOJ does not somehow take Trump out of the race, I'd give RDD a 30% chance at best. If he joins the race before mid-April, I'd cut his chances in half.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:18 pm to GumboPot
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That has to come from congress.
A separation of powers doesn't preclude leadership.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:18 pm to rooster108bm
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I didn't say he was jackass. You said it's not a major issue and you don't care about it.
Context, dumbass.
If you're going to jump in and run your mouth, you should at least figure out what the frick is going on first.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:19 pm to burger bearcat
That's nice. None of that adds up to being "right of Trump."
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:20 pm to RinoRon
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Well its clear who you supported at this point.
I very much doubt that.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:22 pm to NC_Tigah
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RDD had better spend the next several months sorting out ways to defuse that, or effectively counterattack.
"I took their money. You hired and appointed them/their people."
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I'd give RDD a 30% chance at best
If DeSantis makes clear his opposition to the BS in Ukraine and plans to shut the southern border down - for real, not just talk about it, I think his chances are much better than 30%.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:25 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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The more folks running, the better for Trump.
Other candidates will siphon RDS’ votes.
People keep saying this and it simply isn't true.
The establishment is going to run the 2020 anti-Bernie plan on Trump.
Biden finished 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire. Magically, candidates that had over performed in those states all simultaneously dropped out and endorsed Biden to save Biden in SC.
They all got a payoff like the gay mayor being transportation secretary.
The same thing will happen here, Haley, Pence, and Pompeo who all served high up in Trump's administration will drop out and support Desantis under the "new generation of leadership" banner. There will be others but these 3 are the key because they all served with Trump.
This whole thing has been scripted. The large field is a mirage. It will not be large for long.
This isn't speculation, Paul Ryan basically laid the whole plan out in December.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:26 pm to burger bearcat
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If he turns out to be NeoCon Paul Ryan type on these issues, he is basically done.
Just watch who supports him and you'll know all you need to know. Who's Jeb voting for? Who's Liz Cheney looking at? I don't know about you but whomever the GOPe is lining up behind is who I'm NOT pulling the lever for.
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