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Several States Considering Bans on New Homes Featuring Gas Appliances

Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:35 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16928 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:35 am
Minnesota, New York, and California

Everyone I know that’s big into cooking and preparing food hates electric.

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The U.S. Energy Information Administration reports that at least half of all American homes utilize natural gas for such purposes as air and water heating, which makes up at least 15 percent of all natural gas use in the United States. Air heating that utilizes gas is cheaper than electric systems due to being more energy efficient, thus leading to them being the more popular option, especially for low-income households.

Such bans began gaining more widespread attention, and broader left-wing support, after the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) announced that it was considering banning gas stoves nationwide, allegedly due to the effects of such appliances on the environment. The study that CPSC cited as a source justifying such a ban was partially funded by two far-left activist groups that are pushing for a transition to electric.

“Natural gas is our cleanest fossil [fuel] and it is responsible for the U.S. reducing carbon dioxide emissions more than other country, largely because we have centuries of the stuff.” said Dan Kish a senior fellow at the Institute for Energy Research. “God blessed North America with enormous energy wealth, and our only impediment is power-hungry politicians who want to make energy more expensive and more foreign, while bossing Americans around by telling them how to heat their homes and what kind of car they can drive.”


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Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9525 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:36 am to
I have to figure Texas will be the last state on that list. Good to live in Texas.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66622 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:37 am to
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Minnesota, New York, and California


wonder what these have in common?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136975 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:39 am to
Enjoy your rolling blackouts due to your increased strain on the power grid.
Posted by bnmathm
Member since Nov 2007
57 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:42 am to
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Everyone I know that’s big into cooking and preparing food hates electric.



The proposed San Francisco law applies to Furnaces and Water Heaters. It specifically excludes gas ranges.

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The rules would not apply to gas stoves.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/climate/article/bay-area-gas-heater-debate-17769394.php
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:46 am
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22173 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:44 am to
They'd have to pry my gas water heater from my cold dead hands.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:45 am to
Whelp. Ain’t moving there. Cooking on electric sucks arse.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20526 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:55 am to
There is a push for induction. PBS all about it
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:14 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25949 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:56 am to
It’s states that’s populations are fleeing from. Weird
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:58 am to
It's stupid for when you have extended power outages. At least with gas you can cook, boil water, etc. Usually don't lose both at the same time at least not around here.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11887 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:58 am to
This rule will kill the instantaneous water heater industry. to get the an 100kBTU gas water heater in electric, you need 29kWh of electric power (slightly less do to electric more efficient)

instantaneous water heaters save energy because you are not heating water in a tank 24/7 that slowly cools off.


Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
36319 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:00 am to
I can’t decide which state is worse, California or New York. An epic battle.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8600 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:00 am to
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“Natural gas is our cleanest fossil [fuel] and it is responsible for the U.S. reducing carbon dioxide emissions more than other country, largely because we have centuries of the stuff.” said Dan Kish a senior fellow at the Institute for Energy Research. “God blessed North America with enormous energy wealth, and our only impediment is power-hungry politicians who want to make energy more expensive and more foreign, while bossing Americans around by telling them how to heat their homes and what kind of car they can drive.”


I like this guy.

Signed, an O & G Landman
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
151118 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:00 am to
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it was considering banning gas stoves nationwide, allegedly due to the effects of such appliances on the environment.

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Natural gas is our cleanest fossil [fuel] and it is responsible for the U.S. reducing carbon dioxide emissions more than other country

Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:03 am to
Outdoor wood boiler manufacturers are about to make bank
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39199 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:09 am to
Folks up north are going to freeze their asses off.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51522 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:10 am to
Because what we need in a housing affordability crisis is more regulation on new home construction.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7891 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:11 am to
and this is how the policy making process works in America now.

An industry creates a trade association which forms a Pac to buy off politicians and funds a Think Tank to create "research" and "science" that favors the industry.

The Think Tank pushes some bullshite like gas appliances are killing the earth and humans. The bought off politicians then push it into the ecosystem. MSNBC, FACEBOOK and all the other dutiful echo chamber entities take the cue and repeat it verbatim and allow it spread on their platform.

Then local and state level politicians take the lead in order to up their PROGRESSIVE bonafides, increase their star and become a member of the political class that gets to be bought off.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11908 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:16 am to
MY SIL bought new construction in a new development in Tennessee. No gas appliances and no gas lines run to the house... We figured one less cost of a gas line run to the development. But I guess this is where things are going...

When I bought my house there was an electric stove/cook top already here, it looked brand new. I wanted a gas stove but after all the nickle and diming that goes with moving I settled for the stove.. Not crazy about it but the damn thing is a work horse...
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69464 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:17 am to
I hate hate hate cooking on electric.

Induction is better, but I fix them and man I've seen induction ranges needing $1000 repairs.

Gas is cheap. Simple and very easy to regulate desired temperature.
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