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Trading in a car

Posted on 2/14/23 at 6:55 am
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 6:55 am
Any tips to getting most out of a trade-in (older car) at dealer or don't bother and try to sell myself? I know they always lowball. Buying new car so not sure they can use trade-in on the deal.

Also what is standard now to find out worth of used car for trade in and Third person sale, is it still KBB or Edmunds?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73168 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 6:58 am to
See what carmax will offer. I know carvannna was overpaying for cars and they were the best place to sell to for a while. But those days are gone.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 7:52 am
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18673 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:03 am to
Keep in mind you get tax credit for trading in. If it’s something cheap go private or try give me the vin. The last two I traded in a got close to 6k off on taxes on my new vehicle. Made it worth it for me to trade in.

I also forgot to get the best of both worlds you can have the private buyer do an in and out at the dealership. Give me the vin will also do an in and out. This works well because sometimes they smoke the dealers trade in offer and you get the tax credit.

If I would have traded my car into the dealer I would have had 42k to put down from my trade plus 4k in tax credit, so around 46k savings on new ride. With Give me the vin and doing the in and out I had 55k to put down.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 7:31 am
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11188 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:05 am to
Some idea of market trends
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 7:06 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32727 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:10 am to
Get a CarMax offer and bring it with you when you go buy your new car. Tell them you want the same amount as CarMax or you’ll just bring it to CarMax
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170596 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:11 am to
I would make selling the car and buying the new one 2 separate transactions

I got some offers to buy my previous vehicle just getting a KBB appraisal and was able to get about 700 more for it than expected

Posted by root
PNW
Member since Nov 2020
49 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

I know carvannna was overpaying for cats and they were the best place to sell to for a while. But those days are gone.


Well that's not helping their business model.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
6245 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:18 am to
Negoiate the car you want to buy without admitting a trade in. Then when you have a deal in place, say you want to trade in your vehicle. It will piss them off cause they were going to work in the trade in as part of the deal. Now they are stuck.
Posted by Trailz28
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
54 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:19 am to
Get the online estimate from Carmax. The last 3 cars that we have sold/traded in the past few years we did that and the dealership beat the offer.

I see someone suggesting Give me the Vin. That was a joke for me. Recently traded in a 2019 Accord. They offered $14k. Carmax $20k. Traded it at a dealership for $22k.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47195 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:20 am to
quote:

I would make selling the car and buying the new one 2 separate transactions I got some offers to buy my previous vehicle just getting a KBB appraisal and was able to get about 700 more for it than expected


You get a sales tax credit for a tradein.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14226 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:21 am to
quote:

I know carvannna was overpaying for cats and they were the best place to sell to for a while. But those days are gone.
Correct. I sold them a car back in November, for just about what I paid for it over a year ago. Went to see what my wife's car was selling for on their site, and they are asking more than $12K more for the same year, miles, and options than they are willing to give me for her car.

I'll just sell it myself and undercut their asking price.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170596 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:22 am to
quote:



You get a sales tax credit for a tradein.


Which may or may not be worth it if you get screwed on the trade in
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10517 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:23 am to
Just clean the car inside and out. Show them it’s been well taken care of. It will help a teeny tiny bit. That’s about all you can do. Dealerships usually just glance at it and give you the number. I don’t think there’s anything you can do to give yourself extra money from a dealer.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27486 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:24 am to
It really depends on the economics of what you are selling and what you are buying. I hadn’t traded a car to a dealership for a discount on a new car until about 2 months ago, when I traded in a 14 year old Ford that was not in perfect condition. In a private sale I wouldn’t have expected to get more than $3k to $4k, but the dealership offered me more as a trade in. The reduction in sale price and tax gave me much greater value than I could have expected from a private buyer.

In the past (before auto prices went crazy a few years ago) our practice was to sell the old car before it got so old and road worn. In the old market we always got more from a private sale than any dealership would offer, so we would buy the replacement car and then clean and fix up up the old car and sell it.

There’s no single answer. It depends on circumstances.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135864 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:24 am to
If trading in, just negotiate it as part of the sales price of the new car. Set what you will make as a difference, and stick to it. If they want to sell you the car, they will work their way up to meet you.
Posted by MrWhipple
West of the Mississippi
Member since Jun 2016
1138 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:33 am to
quote:

The last two I traded in a got close to 6k off on taxes on my new vehicle.


You traded in a vehicle(s) worth $72,000 on one vehicle? (Assuming 8.25 tax rate). Interesting.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:34 am to
My daughter did Carvana. They gave a price without seeing the car and showed up with a check and drove off with the car. Very easy and way better than what she'd have gotten on a trade-in.
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7005 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:41 am to
What happens with sales taxes if you trade in a car that you still owe on?

For example if the dealer gives you $10k and you still owe $5k, do you get sales tax credit for the 10k or the 5k in equity you have in the trade in?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18673 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:42 am to
quote:

You traded in a vehicle(s) worth $72,000 on one vehicle? (Assuming 8.25 tax rate). Interesting.


East Baton Rouge Parish I think is closer to 10% but I could be wrong. Think it’s 9.45%or 9.95%.

And yes it was two different vehicles I did that with. One is a 2022 and one is 2021.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:43 am to
What kind of vehicle ?
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