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No Change to Speckled Trout regulations

Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Sheesh125
Member since Nov 2012
103 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:02 pm
Unanimous decision to leave trout limits at 12” and 25 per person. Governer has 10 days to overturn.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2977 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:23 pm to
Not sure how I feel on the regulations either way but the reasons cca mentioned for overturning them were disappointing.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6925 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:34 pm to
Do something about the pogey boats and our inshore fishing problems are solved.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
4257 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:34 pm to
Solid source on this?
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2558 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:34 pm to
The oversight committee was in favor of the 15 limit, but not the 13.5" limit. They couldn't keep just the 15 limit part so they rejected the whole change.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2558 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:36 pm to
FB post from someone who attended the meeting:

15 Fish / 13.5 inches rejected unanimously by LA Senate & House Oversight.

The 22 members of the Louisiana Senate and House Natural Resource Committees met jointly today, and unanimously rejected the WLF Commission’s new 15 fish / 13.5 inch speckled trout regulation passed a few months ago. The issue will go back to the WLF Commission for reconsideration.

While most of the members were OK with the 15 fish creel, many expressed concern that moving to 13.5 inches would increase pressure on larger female trout and about the inevitable increase in release mortality. They also expressed considerable concern about other factors (besides rec effort) that impact trout, and how nothing is being done to address those issues. Finally, the members were concerned about the impacts moving to 13.5 inches would have on anglers and businesses along the coast that depend on trout fishing.

To be clear: The joint committees couldn’t approve 15 fish and reject 13.5 inches...they could only approve or reject the entire rule, so that’s what they did. It was the right move.

THANK YOU to the large group of anglers and guides from around the state who showed up today to express your concerns. Your presence in the room and willingness to testify set the tone.
Posted by Sheesh125
Member since Nov 2012
103 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:40 pm to
I actually haven’t been able to locate the results of the vote but they were talking about it on the Kevin Ford show.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12273 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

While most of the members were OK with the 15 fish creel, many expressed concern that moving to 13.5 inches would increase pressure on larger female trout and about the inevitable increase in release mortality. They also expressed considerable concern about other factors (besides rec effort) that impact trout, and how nothing is being done to address those issues. Finally, the members were concerned about the impacts moving to 13.5 inches would have on anglers and businesses along the coast that depend on trout fishing.


Wait, politicians did something right and used logic in doing so? I thought that was dead a long time ago.

Changing the creel to 15 fish isn't necessary but it won't effect many people either. I rarely keep a limit, usually 30-40 fish between me and my partner is good enough and we start goofing off unless the fishing is just red hot and we end up with 50 in the boat quickly. It will suck for someone that doesn't go often and hits a good day and they have to stay at 15 after paying a guide $750+ for the trip.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5685 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 7:56 pm to
My concern has always been that the research is extremely flawed. I do not think overfishing is the real enemy, but I would like to see a moratorium on issuing licenses to charter captains. In my opinion, the BP spill and the repeated openings of the Bonnet Carre Spillway.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10097 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:20 pm to
Why in the fvck are we letting politicians make decisions on wildlife regulations?? Am I the only one that thinks this is insane?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33811 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Do something about the pogey boats and our inshore fishing problems are solved.
that's a smaller part of the problem compared to the rapid declining habitat of our estuaries.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27251 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

Why in the fvck are we letting politicians make decisions


You didn’t need to go any further. Stupid asses just got through crippling a roaring economy for a fricking social experiment to appease weak minded folks. Oh, and they curtailed individual liberty even further.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33811 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:25 pm to
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In my opinion, the BP spill and the repeated openings of the Bonnet Carre Spillway.
bigger issues are... since levees were built and too many canals were dug especially the MRGO, the death warrant for LS marshes was executed. Marshes in LA especially SE LA look dramatically different than they did 20, 30, 40 and 50 years ago... and exponentially so...

Yet La has heard the warnings for our habitat loss and have been ignored for years - that chicken is coming home to roost
Posted by Sheesh125
Member since Nov 2012
103 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:28 pm to
Did you see the video of John Kennedy talking about the plans to fill in the MRGO?
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2977 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:34 pm to
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many expressed concern that moving to 13.5 inches would increase pressure on larger female trout


quote:

inevitable increase in release mortality.


Neither of these assumptions have any evidence to support them.

I don’t think the 25-15 would have done a whole lot. Most people aren’t catch 15fish per person anyways.

A size limit increase to 15” would have the greatest benefit.

The more I think about it the more I feel like I’m not in favor of the government making those changes but we can take conservation into our own hands. Just self limit unless you really need to bring a bunch of filets home.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:38 pm to
Government doing something right. If people want to virtue signal about how little trout they keep, let them. But I'm glad that's not influencing the politicians
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
3188 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:53 pm to
Nobody is catching 15" fish in the marsh consistently. On the beaches and bays yea. But now you alienate most of your recreational fisherman.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29286 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:00 pm to
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Government doing something right. If people want to virtue signal about how little trout they keep, let them. But I'm glad that's not influencing the politicians


100% spot on

No one can tell me the fishing last year wasn’t outstanding. It was outstanding because the areas, especially those in the eastern part of the state weren’t inundated with fresh water. Funny how that works. Not to mention following a year with unimaginable pressure on the fishery.

The bloggers and self aggrandizers on Facebook crack me up with their virtue signaling on the topic. If you believe strongly about catch and release, knock yourself out, just realize not everyone has the same motivation.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38916 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I don’t think the 25-15 would have done a whole lot. Most people aren’t catch 15fish per person anyways.

Yeah 15 per day would mostly affect the guides I seriously doubt the average fisherman going out is keeping 25/day regularly which is why I didn't care about going to 15 but I like keeping 12 inchers
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29286 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:12 pm to
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which is why I didn't care about going to 15 but I like keeping 12 inchers



So we should just cater to your wants since you can’t catch 25? It’s thought processes like these is why our state is 49th and 50th in everything. Why not say, let’s put our heads together and figure a way to do an accurate stock assessment and move from there.
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