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re: Update on landfill fire just east of Birmingham (re-updated Jan 11)
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:43 am to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:43 am to Diseasefreeforall
The designer of an underground landfill seems like the kid who used to just sweep everything under his bed and forget about it when he was told to clean his room as a kid
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:43 am to CaptSpaulding
People wanting ADEM to do something is laughable. That’s just not something that’s within their power, this is not an organization that’s setup to change things in a state like Alabama.
They will manage the cleanup for the next century, but they aren’t stopping or preventing anything unless federal law makes it effectively outside of their control.
They will manage the cleanup for the next century, but they aren’t stopping or preventing anything unless federal law makes it effectively outside of their control.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:45 am to VaBamaMan
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edit: the landfill accepts home trash. I've even dumped hot tubs there. They take all kinds of trash there.
This bit right here is what all of this going forward will hinge on. Apparently, that's not what that landfill was for. They seem to have operated under the law as an organic debris landfill while actually being anything but. So, you're starting from the point that nothing was done as it was supposed to have been done. Then, you throw in the likelihood that the owners cut even more corners, and you have what we are seeing.
Unfortunately, the legal fight will take decades.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 1:00 pm to Diseasefreeforall
It's been terrible today. I left the basement door open earlier by mistake and the house smells like a campfire. I'm between Trussville and Springville on highway 11.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 1:19 pm to Jalbow3
Had a similar thing happen just south of Sterlington around 1980. A large area where carbon black was disposed of for 40? years caught fire during a drought. It burned for a long time. I went there and there were small tornados coming out of the surface and fire coming out their sides. It was pretty cool. They finally drug in a water pipe sourced from the Ouachita River and let it run for about 2? weeks to stop it.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:51 pm to auisssa
What's this poker game? I'm right down the street from you.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:03 pm to Jalbow3
Every Friday night at the clubhouse in CL. Usually about 5-8 guys. No limit hold em. Most buy ins are $100 or so.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:04 pm to Jalbow3
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It's been terrible today. I left the basement door open earlier by mistake and the house smells like a campfire. I'm between Trussville and Springville on highway 11.
I'm right there as well. Didn't realize it was bad today until I opened the front door. Been coughing and miserable ever since
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:20 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Hard for us Louisiana baws to get too excited about your issue. Are you familiar with the term, bagasse?
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:31 pm to Jalbow3
Let me know if you're interested. There's also a big game in Leeds on Wed and Fri. I haven't played in that one but a lot of my friends do.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:03 pm to auisssa
Thanks, you can email me at my user name and let me know the time and a contact. I'm not a serial killer, TigerfaninPA would let you know that his wife and him had a great time at our tailgate.
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This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:14 pm to Jalbow3
Sent
Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:43 pm to CaptSpaulding
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For people in the Odenville/Moody area, this may turn into a legit torches and pitchforks situation once they all decide on who to blame.
Seems like buckets and hoses would probably be more effective.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 4:54 pm to auisssa
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Probably 8 to 12 months of fuel left.
Let it burn. This is the consequences of hyper consumption coming home to roost.
The landfill in Tuscaloosa has to have the highest elevation in the entire county. Because of all our discarded shite.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 5:18 pm to Grievous Angel
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Let it burn. This is the consequences of hyper consumption coming home to roost.
You are very ignorant of the situation.
Greed got us here, but it was the greed of one family. There was no hyper consumption involved.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:19 am to auisssa
Update for my Jefferson and St Clair county brethren.
St Clair County, where the fire is located, has contacted 4 companies about putting out the fire but is asking the state and EPA for their opinions on who to choose, they don't want to make things worse (not sure if possible) and because there may be a criminal prosecution so the landfill could be a crime scene and I guess it should only be disturbed in a very planned way. It sounds like the county will draft a report within a week and submit it to the state with hopes that the state will take the lead.
The state environmental agency, ADEM, put out a statement yesterday saying that they haven't heard from St Clair County yet but says they will offer whatever expertise they can to help the county make a decision, which doesn't exactly sound like they are ready or able to take the reigns.
St Clair County won't name the 4 companies being considered or the methods they could use. At the meeting the county said the companies gave them a timeline of 30 days to put out the fire but when interviewed the county engineer seemed a little skeptical of that.
Meanwhile, the smoke is brutal today. I've got a new Blueair purifier cranked and it seems to be holding its own.
St Clair County, where the fire is located, has contacted 4 companies about putting out the fire but is asking the state and EPA for their opinions on who to choose, they don't want to make things worse (not sure if possible) and because there may be a criminal prosecution so the landfill could be a crime scene and I guess it should only be disturbed in a very planned way. It sounds like the county will draft a report within a week and submit it to the state with hopes that the state will take the lead.
The state environmental agency, ADEM, put out a statement yesterday saying that they haven't heard from St Clair County yet but says they will offer whatever expertise they can to help the county make a decision, which doesn't exactly sound like they are ready or able to take the reigns.
St Clair County won't name the 4 companies being considered or the methods they could use. At the meeting the county said the companies gave them a timeline of 30 days to put out the fire but when interviewed the county engineer seemed a little skeptical of that.
Meanwhile, the smoke is brutal today. I've got a new Blueair purifier cranked and it seems to be holding its own.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:25 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Sounds like a good place to use for temporary pumped storage of excess CO2. I don't think that the grocery store has enough dry ice on hand.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:41 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Are you monitoring and recording the air quality at your place?
Posted on 1/11/23 at 5:53 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Need to call this guy.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:35 pm to XenScott
Anymore updates? Fire still going?
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