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California and the Midwest face 'high risk' of electricity shortages in next five years

Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:37 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27334 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:37 am
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America's electrical grid is being pushed to the breaking point, and California, parts of the Midwest and parts of the South Central United States are at "high risk" for energy shortfalls, says the not-for-profit organization charged with managing and evaluating the grid.

"High risk" regions, marked in red on the map, may see shortfalls at "normal peak conditions," according to the 54th annual assessment from the North American Electric Reliability Corporation released Thursday.

The reasons for the shortfalls vary.

In the Midwestern states and Ontario, more power generation is being retired than is being added back online, NERC's Mark Olson told reporters Thursday. Projected energy shortfalls have been projected in that region since 2018, Olson said.

In California, the risk is due to a "variable resource mix" and "demand variability," Olson said. That means there's a lot of renewable energy in the state, and its generation is not coordinated with the times people need the most energy. NERC predicts that demand could fall below supply for 10 hours during peak summer months in 2024.

Much of the rest of the Midwest and the rest of the Western part of the United States are at "elevated risk" (yellow on the map), which means shortfalls may occur in extreme conditions, like during severe weather or hot spells where everyone is running air conditioners. In New England, the elevated risk comes in the winter when people use generators that depend on natural gas.


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The Southwest could also suffer when demand is high and wind energy generation is low in the region.


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Increasing awareness of climate change is pushing utilities to phase out fossil fuel-based sources of energy that generate carbon emissions. Renewables like wind and solar don't contribute to climate change, but have period where they don't generate any energy (when the sky is dark or the wind is still).

Renewables also don't necessarily map to where demand is, unlike fossil fuels, which can be transported and burned near where they're consumed. That means more transmission lines are needed, and building them can take from seven to 15 years, Moura says.

Another area of note, according to NERC, is the increased power demand of cryptocurrency mining and the need to plan for energy usage there.


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Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:37 am to
bummer
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59055 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:39 am to
Aw man.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:45 am to
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25111 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:46 am to
It’s okay, I’m sure the former “slaves” will use some of their $325,000 to help out.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7119 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:56 am to
I get that some people want to push for cleaner energy, but here's a thought. Maybe you don't shut down old systems (coal, etc.), until an equivalent or better system is up and ready to go. People say you get what you vote for, but I would imagine there is a significant portion of those populations that voted against it. Something this significant should require a significant majority and as stated before, a proper replacement in place before phasing old systems out.
Posted by willymeaux
Member since Mar 2012
4876 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:08 am to
Quite sad innit
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
10340 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:09 am to
frick California.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37697 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:15 am to
frick Cali
Posted by headedwest21
Member since Dec 2016
1142 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:20 am to
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generation is not coordinated with the times people need the most energy


Well I’ll be. Hard to produce solar energy at peak usage times of 7-10 PM. Solar is great for alternative or boost but will never be feasible for main source power.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16524 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:31 am to
Funny, we are retiring all coal in the next five years, imagine that.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:33 am to
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I get that some people want to push for cleaner energy, but here's a thought. Maybe you don't shut down old systems (coal, etc.), until an equivalent or better system is up and ready to go. People say you get what you vote for, but I would imagine there is a significant portion of those populations that voted against it. Something this significant should require a significant majority and as stated before, a proper replacement in place before phasing old systems out.


Dude, this is America in the 21st century. Common sense is not a thing.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63994 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:36 am to
They're never going to build out the grid. They're hoping this will force people towards the cities and into little pods/apartments.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19443 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:38 am to
All sorts of fingers are gonna be pointed at everything but the legit reason why.

Instead of spending money on frivolous shite so you can get re-elected, why not spend money on upgrading infrastructure.

If this is such a major issue, this isn’t the first time it has been noticed. So back 5-10 years ago, when it was noticed, why not make major steps to fix the problem then?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16531 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:44 am to
Should make it a lot easier to sell solar and storage setups then. Sweet.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
49899 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:45 am to
Oh no



Anyway
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
932 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 9:59 am to
Seeing this kind of report makes the average person want to say screw California and the Midwest, they get what they deserve…but people inside the power industry would say that it’s not just California and the Midwest, actually the entire national power grid system is at “high risk” of shortages as companies are being forced to accelerate their coal plant closures and move to wind and solar.
This is making companies close their reliable, efficient and profitable plants and try to rush into other forms of electricity production, sources that are dependent on cloudless days and continuous blowing wind, neither of which is in control of the human species.
One of America’s biggest strengths for over 100 years has been its ability to be independent of other nations and foreign sources for its energy supply, so disrupting and destabilizing the power supply is a risk to the entire nation.
And to further point out risk to the grid, recent incidences of unknown assailants shooting switch yard transformers and causing widespread outages is just an example of how at risk the system is. Take a second and think of how many transformer switch yards you personally can think of or remember seeing as you drive around in you daily activities, they are everywhere and every one of them is at risk.
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2733 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:03 am to
What we need is a bunch of electric cars!
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73524 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:04 am to
where dey gonna charge their EVs?
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4752 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:06 am to
Let California reap what they have sewn, if they can't function oh well.
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