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Navy Football coaching search
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:24 pm
Who even runs the triple option anymore?
Thinking most likely they will just promote someone internal like Brian Newberry
Thinking most likely they will just promote someone internal like Brian Newberry
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:28 pm to TulaneFan
I’ve heard the Kennesaw St coach mentioned. He used to be an assistant at Navy, as well as Georgia Southern and Georgia Tech so he’s familiar with Navy and the triple.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:43 pm to TulaneFan
Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:49 pm to bearhc
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Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
The AD has already publicly said that the new coach will have to run the option
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:49 pm to bearhc
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Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
Navy’s academic and military service requirements make it extremely difficult to get the talent to do this
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:54 pm to bearhc
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Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
You ever see a high school team without athletes try to run the air raid? It’s real bad
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:25 pm to bearhc
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Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
To my knowledge the only service academy to ever not run the flexbone in modern times was Army, and it only happened once. They tried to be a prostyle passing team and it was an absolute joke. That coach was promptly fired and they hired a flexbone guy to replace him.
Now why don’t the academies try changing up the status quo and “modernize”? A few reasons…
1- Football talent does not go into the service. Or rather it rarely happens. Guys playing college ball these days use it as a stepping stone to the league, and you need special permission to postpone your required years of military service. To my knowledge those exceptions are extremely rare, and teams aren’t going to wait on you.
2- Linemen are tiny compared to other D1 schools. You are required to maintain a certain body weight in the service, both for fitness reasons and for practical reasons. You’re not going to fit on a naval vessel or a plane if you’re too big. As such most Zone schemes in shotgun offenses are impractical and gap schemes in the triple option are more viable.
3- Triple option schemes are much simpler to learn than most other schemes. Service academies don’t offer much in terms of downtime to go to meetings and learn complex schemes. Simpler is better.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:45 pm to iBack8569
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1- Football talent does not go into the service. Or rather it rarely happens. Guys playing college ball these days use it as a stepping stone to the league, and you need special permission to postpone your required years of military service. To my knowledge those exceptions are extremely rare, and teams aren’t going to wait on you.
Not anymore. Trump changed policy in 2018. There are official policies in place to allow athletes that are good enough to go pro to pursue that option and pay back their debt to the tax payers.
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2- Linemen are tiny compared to other D1 schools. You are required to maintain a certain body weight in the service, both for fitness reasons and for practical reasons. You’re not going to fit on a naval vessel or a plane if you’re too big. As such most Zone schemes in shotgun offenses are impractical and gap schemes in the triple option are more viable.
Lineman and other players are exempt from Height/Weight standards while on the football team. They choose smaller quicker lineman because they are more suited for an option offense.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:07 pm to bearhc
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Hopefully Navy ditches the triple option and goes to something like the air raid.
Army already tried that. It won't work.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:09 pm to TulaneFan
Tim Horton from Air Force is the guy they should go get
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:41 pm to armytiger96
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armytiger96
listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about.
Navy could go air raid but it would have to be a special version of the air raid, almost like evangel used to run where you have huge huge splits and QB very deep
or they could run shotgun flexbone
or continue to run flex
Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:23 pm to lsu777
My point about air raid or some sort of passing game is this; Army and Navy have terrible quarterbacks that cannot throw the ball at all, and the absence of a passing threat makes it difficult to run. There have got to be players out there who are capable of running and throwing the ball. I believe that it is possible to throw out of the formations used by the service academies, but you have to recruit people who are capable of doing so.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:07 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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You ever see a high school team without athletes try to run the air raid? It’s real bad
Like St Thomas More?
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:12 pm to TulaneFan
Either Moore Feete or Les Miles
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:44 pm to bearhc
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There have got to be players out there who are capable of running and throwing the ball. I believe that it is possible to throw out of the formations used by the service academies, but you have to recruit people who are capable of doing so.
You sound like me when Army fired Bob Sutton a couple of years after beating Navy 5 years in a row in the 1990’s. Unfortunately, when they made the transition away from the wishbone it turned out to be a failed experiment that set the program back over a decade as Army went 40- 126 over the next 15 years with only one win over navy.
I hope navy tries to get away from the option attack and history repeats itself.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:00 pm to iBack8569
Everything you are saying about the triple option is true of the air raid.
Mike Leach compared his system to the option frequently.
It’s simple, unique, takes less time to learn, can use smaller linemen, provides a competitive edge with less talented players.
Mike Leach compared his system to the option frequently.
It’s simple, unique, takes less time to learn, can use smaller linemen, provides a competitive edge with less talented players.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 10:44 pm to bigpapamac
Bohannon is a great fit for Navy!
Posted on 12/15/22 at 1:56 am to TigahTeeth
Upon further review sir, you are correct
Bohannon is the obvious choice
Bohannon is the obvious choice
Posted on 12/15/22 at 2:57 pm to TulaneFan
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Navy’s academic and military service requirements make it extremely difficult to get the talent to do this
true air raid is specifically designed to offset a talent gap.
Posted on 12/15/22 at 4:13 pm to iBack8569
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Now why don’t the academies try changing up the status quo and “modernize”? A few reasons…
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Linemen are tiny compared to other D1 schools. You are required to maintain a certain body weight in the service, both for fitness reasons and for practical reasons.
This is the correct answer. The service academies will always be at a deficit on the lines of scrimmage. The option is how they combat that problem.
They also should have stayed independent. Going to the AAC made their schedule much, much tougher than it was.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 4:21 pm
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