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247 Sports: Final grades for first year head coaches

Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10675 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:22 pm
1. Sonny Dykes, TCU - A+
2. Lincoln Riley, USC - A
3. Kalen Deboer, Washington - A
4. Mike Elko, Duke - A
5. Brian Kelly, LSU - A

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We're not going to dock Brian Kelly too much for LSU's late-season fade with losses to Texas A&M and Georgia, because over the course of the season, his Tigers impressed. SEC West champions in Year 1? This is exactly why LSU wrote a blank check to Kelly to take over a program whose last national championship came in 2019. Kelly shook off a season-opening loss to Florida State, after which many national media members buried his potential, to win eight of his next nine prior to the Texas A&M setback. He even toppled Nick Saban this fall.


6. Dan Lanning, Oregon - B
7. Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame - B
8. Joey Mcquire, Texas Tech - B
9. Jake Dickert, Washington State - B
10. Billy Napier, Florida - C
11. Tony Elliot, Virginia - C
12. Brent Venables, Oklahoma - C
13. Mario Cristobal, Miami (FL) - D
14. Brent Pry, Virginia Tech - D

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This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7881 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:23 pm to
Think its crazy that Napier and Cristobal aren't Fs.


Florida lost to Vandy & Miami fricking lost to Middle Tennessee State..


This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33193 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:26 pm to
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Billy Napier, Florida - C


Dodged a big bullet here despite what some of the clowns here said
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
2283 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:27 pm to
They said "a program whose last championship was in 2019" like that was a century ago.
Posted by docTQ4
Atlanta GA
Member since Jan 2014
2209 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:34 pm to
Didn’t just lose to MTSU got absolutely dominated lol
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29031 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Dodged a big bullet here despite what some of the clowns here said



Remember that "what's the difference between he and Saban? One coaches offense" quote?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29035 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Dodged a big bullet here despite what some of the clowns here said
I think Florida will be alright in time, but as a LSU fan, I didn't want, "in time". If LSU can pull in the DL from the transfer portal, Denver Harris, and finish out strong at DB, LSU should have a much better team than they had this year.

Florida has the most important position locked up for years to come with Rashada and Lagway. The real problem comes with building the trenches.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44191 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I think Florida will be alright in time


Will be interested in seeing who their QB is going to be.

Richardson's gone, Kitna's going away, Stokes isn't coming
Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:05 pm to
Freeman should be a C as well. Kelly left a program that had 5 straight 10 win or better seasons and he got 8 with some awful losses
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20825 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

I think Florida will be alright in time,
I do too. I think their program was in similar shape to LSU's with a depleted roster and some deep culture issues. They finished .500 this year and played some good teams tough. I think Napier is a good coach and they'll be ok.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20188 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:15 pm to
Agree with most of the grades. I did deduct some points for the sloppy loss to FSU and the season ending collapse. So B+.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32886 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:15 pm to
Venebales only got a “C”?
Posted by NJLSU
Member since Aug 2022
1512 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:18 pm to
Freeman did a terrible job overall. He was given immense liberties by the media overall. We’ve been told he can recruit much better than Kelly. That remains to be seen for one and two, can he develop said talent? Seems a chunk of Irish fans are of the motto that “Freeman can bring the talent and Kelly could not” but can he coach it? Look down at Miami with Mario, he can recruit, but you cannot tell me that man is worth that contract. Now in Baton Rouge, Kelly is bringing in, one of LSU’s best classes of all time by grade and it’ll likely include four 5 stars as per ON3. Kelly is smart enough to surround himself with a great staff that can recruit as well, which is an underrated element of his game.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4132 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Freeman should be a C as well. Kelly left a program that had 5 straight 10 win or better seasons and he got 8 with some awful losses


You didn't think they'd give him bad marks did you?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70775 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Venebales only got a “C”?




There must have been a curve
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7322 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:26 pm to
Winning the SEC West in your first year with what was left over from O should be an auto A+
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3364 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:59 pm to
Mario is soo horrible idk what Miami saw from his time at Oregon to make them think he was worth it
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22749 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 2:00 pm to
I don’t know how you give sunbelt Billy and Ven. Cs. Both should be Fs
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15838 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 3:20 pm to
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If LSU can pull in the DL from the transfer portal


Hope this changes after this year. Cant be relying on transfer portal for top flight guys. We need to start getting top flight players in recruiting classes so they on campus for 3 or 4 years. DL, LB,RB,DB's,TE still thin. Bama, UGA, OH ST, MICh aint relying on portal to fill thin postions. Hoping by year 3 kelly is just using portal for depth and a few positions not a ton of starters like now.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33044 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Hope this changes after this year.


Meh. Kelly has already laid out what he wants to do, and it’s clearly leading with recruiting and just filling pressing needs via the portal. But that’s going to take time. Look at home many guys we pulled in last year who are leaving after just one season. That was an emergency patch job.

This kind of turnover is part of a complete rebuild. Just be glad the portal is there so it’s possible to stay above water while that happens.

As for DL specifically, they need to do better at DT, but the DE and edge class is fine. We just need a lot of depth with the guys we have leaving for the draft and through the portal. That should settle out over the next season or two.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 8:04 pm
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