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re: Mel Kiper has Jayden listed as his 5th best QB

Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:08 am to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28505 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:08 am to
quote:

You have to think if he is a day 2 pick he's leaving right?
no way he improves that.

If he goes above 5th rd he should go
Posted by StevieG504
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
3554 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:09 am to
What rumor of Walker???
Posted by 314stunna
NYC
Member since Aug 2015
837 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:10 am to
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Ahead of Hendon Hooker? Interesting.


Not being a hater, I think he is over rated and won't be very good in the NFL.

He misses a lot of easy throws and a lot of the big plays for Tenn this year were coverage busts. He's also like 24 already.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51129 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:11 am to
It's just a rumor so remember that but possibly looking around if Jayden came back. Because you would think though it would be an open competition he would be penciled in as the starter.
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
2353 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:12 am to
He is gone then. Round 2 or 3 pick. Now we know why Boutte is staying Nuss with the missile arm is going to be QB1. WR's are excited about the future next year.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18378 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:13 am to
He needs to go Pro then
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23968 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:14 am to
I don't see his draft stock going up too much by staying one more year. It may even go down or he may get injured.

I'm sure he will make an informed decision.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:16 am to
Probably thinks he will be utilized like Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts.
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1625 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:16 am to
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Has Kipper's draft boards rankings ever been accurate?


Well he had Josh Allen as the number 1 QB in the loaded class of ‘18 when no one else did. Everyone poo pooped Allen’s bad college stats against weak competition but Kiper saw the potential. It’s almost like he’s been doing this for 40 years or something….
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13076 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:17 am to
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Must be a really down year for QBs. No way JD makes it as a QB in the NFL. Can’t imagine wasting a draft pick on him.


Neither will around 7 or 8 others on that list. That’s just the facts about NFL QBs. Very few actually “make it” as meaningful NFL QBs.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7127 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:18 am to
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No way JD makes it as a QB in the NFL.


Agree
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28718 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:18 am to
From a physical standpoint you like what Daniels brings to the table. That's a big reason why he was rated so highly coming out of HS. He has good height (6'3"). Particularly for a "running" QB (Lamar Jackson is 6'2"). He has good arm strength and is probably more mechanically sound throwing the ball than Jackson. He's also a very good runner with great feel for defenders once he escapes the pocket. All of those are traits coaches can't "teach". That's a big reason guys with less production go higher than those with more production. Otherwise, guys like Jim Druckenmiller and Jake Plummer wouldn't get drafted ahead of Heisman Trophy winning Danny Wuerffel. NFL coaches can't "teach" a guy to be 6'3", with a good arm and great running ability. But they do think they can teach that guy to be a great QB.

Daniels' issues seem to be with decision making and anticipation. There is always a bit of hesitancy to let the ball go unless he's certain the guy is wide open. Guys being wide open just isn't going to happen all that often. Especially at the NFL level. You have to trust what you are seeing before the snap, and make split second decisions after the snap to know when to let the ball go...even if the guy is not technically wide open when you make that decision. It's not easy. Otherwise, anyone could be a great QB.

The choice for Daniels is to enter the NFL draft. Likely be drafted in the middle rounds. And hope to find a spot where he can develop into a guy who can start. Or, he can come back to LSU. Play another year in the same offense, with the same OC, and largely the same players, and hope that familiarity will help him have a better year to raise his draft stock.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4089 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:18 am to
JD is above Hendon Hooker?



We watch the same season?
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54830 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:19 am to
Man that draft board is just shite. Oh wait Jayden go get that money young man.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7362 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:19 am to
I've watched TCU play several times this year and always came away relatively impressed with Max Duggan. I wonder why he rarely gets any love
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 10:22 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61474 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I don't see his draft stock going up too much by staying one more year. It may even go down or he may get injured.

I'm sure he will make an informed decision.



Agreed. His passing numbers are basically the exact same over 4 years of starting at 2 different programs.

The only thing he did better at this year was rushing yards and rushing touchdowns, but his yards per carry was down to about 4.7 ypc.

I don't see how one more year changes anything for him.

This isn't a Joe Burrow situation where he's in his first year of starting.
Posted by StevieG504
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
3554 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:20 am to
I see. Welll if we lose Howard because BK goes with Daniels that will be my first legitimate “what the actual frick are you doing?!?” With coach BK. If we lose both Nuss and Howard over Daniels the fan base will go ape shite over this. BK ain’t ready for all that
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72571 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:21 am to
Everything you said is spot on

There’s a reason no Mike Leach or June Jones QB did anything.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13076 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:21 am to
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I wonder he rarely gets any love


Could be measurables. I don’t know what his are, just saying that could be a factor.
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:23 am to
Of what round? 6th or 7th
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