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re: Many Republicans just didn’t vote for the Republican candidates in Arizona
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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“Turnout in the two Democratic-leaning congressional districts with outsized Hispanic populations in Maricopa County was 23 percentage points lower than it was elsewhere in the county.”
Tabulation errors not counting Republican votes explains all this.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:19 pm to omegaman66
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True but it wasn't for lack of trying. Some time you pull the lever for an R but the final tally shows otherwise. Somehow
I'm assuming you're speaking theoretically, but what's your point? That Lake votes were counted as Hobbs votes?
Again, I want to believe this, but I've seen/heard no evidence that this happened.
Read through this thread, and it doesn't occur to you that everybody that's so certain of fraud have zero real evidence of it?
Like that the Republican candidate for treasurer getting more votes than any other candidate for statewide office ... this is somehow fricked up, but how? Logically, why is this fricked up?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:21 pm to RLDSC FAN
Something stinks. Either a lot of Arizona Republicans are traitors or there was fraud.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:26 pm to David_DJS
quote:There you have it. You checked a Maricopa website saying that wait times were normal. Nothing to see here. That's a little naive since there's been over 100 video testimonials stating the opposite. Believe the Maricopa website or the hundreds of lying eyes of those who experienced the problems first hand?
I looked on the site that reports waiting times in real time, and the vast majority of voting centers showed less than 20 minute waits. There was a handful showing 30-40. There wasn't more than a few that showed more than that, and none showed more than 80 minutes.
I don't think the R or D on the lapel matters in this case. These are all McCain republicans who are potentially losing their grip on the state of Arizona. These are Never-Trump (Lake) republicans and Lake is akin to lighting the match on their own funeral pyre.
A remedy for all involved would be a re-vote.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Many voted for the Democrats
Strangely enough, it was only Republicans who dropped their ballots into door #3.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:31 pm to Tmcgin
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Didn’t want Trump stink on them ?
Yeah, the Trump stink of prosperity and the preservation of our constitutional republic really stinks…..what a loon.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 7:32 pm to alpinetiger
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There you have it. You checked a Maricopa website saying that wait times were normal. Nothing to see here. That's a little naive since there's been over 100 video testimonials stating the opposite. Believe the Maricopa website or the hundreds of lying eyes of those who experienced the problems first hand?
Did anybody suggest that when wait times were onerous the website said they were short? What are you arguing here?
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I don't think the R or D on the lapel matters in this case. These are all McCain republicans who are potentially losing their grip on the state of Arizona. These are Never-Trump (Lake) republicans and Lake is akin to lighting the match on their own funeral pyre.
Now you're arguing that Arizona Republicans are all Rinos, so why are you so convinced it took cheating for KL to lose?
A week before election day, on this site I posted that I thought Masters would lose (he's weird in a creepy way, women don't like him and Trump, McConnel and Thiel pulled funding from him), but that Kari Lake was a shoe-in. That I would be shocked if she lost. And I am. I have a hard time believing that more Arizonans made an effort to vote for that retard than for Kari Lake. But shock isn't proof of fraud.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
I believe it. I am not a fan of John Mccain but I am smart enough to know its not a winning strategy for a Republican in Arizona to tell Mccain supporters to get the hell out.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:21 pm to alpinetiger
100 video testimonials stating the opposite.
So you just believe any jackass with a video camera that puts it on the internet?
So you just believe any jackass with a video camera that puts it on the internet?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:27 pm to David_DJS
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Is Box 3 an issue? Maybe. Nobody has been able to explain, good or bad - a) how many ballots were dropped in Box 3's, and b) what did they look like vote count-wise? What we do know is that Box 3 ballots were transported/counted under supervision of Republican poll-watchers and lawyers.
No, you don’t know this. What we do know however is that election judges and numerous workers were speaking up & coming forward on Election Day to alert officials and candidates that they were witnessing people intentionally breaking chain of custody.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:28 pm to oklahogjr
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So you just believe any jackass with a video camera that puts it on
Gotta love it when the rebuttal is to not believe your lying eyes.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:33 pm to JimEverett
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I believe it. I am not a fan of John Mccain but I am smart enough to know its not a winning strategy for a Republican in Arizona to tell Mccain supporters to get the hell out.
McCain was losing massive support before his last election. He begged like a bitch for Trump to come in bc for the first time, he was facing the real threat of losing what had always been a safe seat.
The people in AZ were starting to wake up like the rest of America and they had enough of his shite.
The media rewrote history to protect his “legacy”.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:35 pm to LSUAngelHere1
More like box3 ballots were tossed
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:37 pm to David_DJS
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I've followed the election controversies. I live in Maricopa county. None of the arguments made so far for a "steal" stand up to base level scrutiny. I'm not suggesting there wasn't cheating - I hope there was because I don't want to believe what the alternative would mean. What I'm arguing is - nobody has provided evidence or even an argument that explains how the election was stolen, and I don't understand why that's the case two weeks after polls closed.
Ask yourself, what would you consider proof?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:40 pm to David_DJS
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But shock isn't proof of fraud.
For the sake of common sense here…. Even if you don’t want to believe it was fraudulent until the media tells you so…. Thousands of citizens were victims of voter suppression.
There’s thousands of people who have come forward with their stories of being denied this sacred right. I can’t help it if you refuse to believe them.
No one expects these shady arse people to admit they suppressed thousands of voters, except you apparently.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is just FUD to quell any election doubt.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:57 pm to David_DJS
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Again, I want to believe this, but I've seen/heard no evidence that this happened. Read through this thread, and it doesn't occur to you that everybody that's so certain of fraud have zero real evidence of it?
Many of us can read though this thread and the most obvious thing that occurs to others is that you do not want to believe the thousands of citizens who were victims of voter suppression.
Are you being obtuse? Again, you’ve been given evidence of suppression:
People waited for hours and didn’t get to vote bc they had to leave to go to work or pick up kids…
People were sent on wild goose chases only to arrive at the 4th location and be told they can’t vote there…
Older people had to leave bc after so many hours of standing their knees couldn’t take it any longer..
If you don’t think that is enough to convince you of voter suppression then you have bigger problems.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
Weren’t they kicking out all the Republican votes? The ones that actually got to vote?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
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just didn't vote
Why would they vote? Masters and Lake are Trumpy right-wingers. Same thing in Nevada with Laxalt, PA with Mastriano and Oz, Alaska with Palin and Chewbacca, and Georgia's Herschel.
The Trump era is over. And never forget--at least 40% of Americans get some sort of transfer payments from the federal government. They're not voting for Trump, or for Trump surrogates.
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