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re: 3 terrible calls last night by the refs

Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40175 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:00 am to
#’s 2 and 3 were good calls.

Wow! I just realized what “targeting” call you are referring to. That was also an excellent call. Daniels waited too long to slide, and the Bama guy was already into his motion when Daniels slid. I’ve seen that called more often than not, but it would have been a terrible call.

The officials were great last night, and there are only two kinds of people who don’t think so, Bama losers and LSU losers.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40175 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:05 am to
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Please site this rule where a player without possession who is out of bounds overrides a player in bounds with possession?

“Cite” And the player in bounds did not have possession - not even close.
Posted by Mako_fin
Member since Sep 2016
772 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:06 am to
Don’t forget the blatant non holding call on Perkins on the Young scramble and long TD throw.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40175 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:07 am to
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Perkins was being held on the collar by 54 as Young scooted past to throw the late touchdown.

THIS was a bad call.
Posted by jbeard
Member since Nov 2007
770 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:07 am to
I had a bigger problem with the hit on Daniels during the first drive. They called a penalty but did not even review for targeting. I thought the backer dipped his head down and put the crown into JD’s chin. Maybe I’m wrong but thought it was worth a closer look.
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1024 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:10 am to
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He did NOT knock it from his hand, all he had to do is touch it and he killed it. It's a terrible rule.

I never saw proof that he actually touched it. If someone has proof I’d love to see it.
Posted by jbeard
Member since Nov 2007
770 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:10 am to
Yeah, Wingo’s finger pretty clearly moves. It would have been a tough call on Bama late in the game, but the rule is the rule. If you’re going to stop thaw game and review it, at least get the call correct.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23374 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:10 am to
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And the player in bounds did not have possession


At the time the ball touched out of bounds (Bama player) absolutely
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14519 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:12 am to
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The officials were great last night

Wow ok. Refs did everything in their power to give bama the game and LSU still won and you come out with great game by refs
Posted by gabzooks
Member since Jul 2013
308 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:14 am to
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The nonsense about Brooks not having “complete” possession is just made up. It’s a bullshite interpretation, extrapolating from the rules about a completed pass.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77445 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:14 am to
Dont' forget early in the game Henry Too Too I believe it was, was called for roughing the passer but it should have been targeting when the top of his helmet smacked under Daniels facemask...

Perkins does that he is called for targeting and tossed...
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
926 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:14 am to
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If so, uh no he didn’t miss him.


Exactly. I was mad when they used that, because you can clearly see JD’s head get bounced off the turf.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9730 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:15 am to
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So if a player catches the ball on his knees does he have to get up and make a football move? Or is he just down?

He doesn’t have to make a football move. He has to maintain control of the ball long enough to make a football move.

The example of a player who catches a pass on his knees is actually a good comparison here.

Imagine a player on his knees catches a pass, and then a defender hits him and the ball pops out. How do you decide whether that’s a completion (down at the spot because his knee was down) or an incomplete pass? Now apply that exact same standard to this play, before the Bama player touched the ball. A fumble recovery has the same standard for possession vs. loose ball.

Having two hands on the ball alone is not enough to gain possession, as many offensive linemen have found out after strip/sacks.

Note that he also has to maintain control of the ball all the way to the ground to have possession, just like he would if he were making a catch. The only difference for a fumble recovery is that if he doesn’t maintain control all the way to the ground, it’s still a live ball and he can recover it again. As long as the player and ball are still inbounds.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96566 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:15 am to
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eah, I don't understand how anyone can call this a bad call. Call it a bad rule all you want.
Because it was a bad call

Once lsu had two hands on it with his knee on the ground, the play is dead. Nothing after that moment matters, at all.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2475 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:15 am to
quote:

e can thank Saban for the fourth terrible call, going for two late in the game and not converting. Had they kicked the extra points, their field goal that tied it would have wine the game (probably since there was not much time left on the clock)


You can’t know that for sure. If Bama goes up 22-17, we go for 2 when when Taylor scores TD and possibly up 8. Also, we play defense much differently of up only 1 last drive knowing FG wins and not just tie.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71670 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:15 am to
He didn't miss it should have been at least unnecessary roughness.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:16 am to
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The officials were great last night, and there are only two kinds of people who don’t think so, Bama losers and LSU losers.


You are trying to sound intelligent by intentionally being a contrarian.

It’s not working
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96566 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:16 am to
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Having two hands on the ball alone is not enough to gain possession
Then why was Kelen mond considered instantly down when he simply touched the ball with one hand and his knee on the ground? According to you possession wasn’t made until after monds knee had risen from the turf
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
926 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:17 am to
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Refs did everything in their power to give bama the game


I agree. Pivotal plays in the game were changed due to flags and blatantly missed reviews (the tipped pass).

LSU beat Bama last night. They beat Bama AND the refs.
GEAUX TIGERS!!! LSU IS BACK BABYYY!!!
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9730 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Then why was Kelen mond considered instantly down when he simply touched the ball with one hand and his knee on the ground? According to you possession wasn’t made until after monds knee had risen from the turf

That’s an easy one. It was a terrible call.
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