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re: Sources: Gonzaga in talks with Big 12 about joining conference
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:11 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:11 pm to RLDSC FAN
Mistake for the Big 12. There's no big money in basketball and Gonzaga caught lighting in a bottle. DePaul used to be a power. St. John's used to be a power, Seton Hall used to be a power. Hell even Georgetown used to be a power.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:17 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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A small commuter school with no real campus that doesn't play football. But the Big12 is like hey! They're hot in basketball right now.
Not a commuter school (look at those tuition rates!), plus have a campus, though small since the school only had around 5,000 students 20+ years ago before they became a basketball phenomenon. Gonzaga is the preeminent Catholic university in the Pacific Northwest.
The tiny basketball arena seems like a bigger obstacle, unless Gonzaga wants to move some games to the nearby Spokane Arena.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
Pull in Arizona and you have a good football conference and the premier basketball conference.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:28 pm to Snoop Dawg
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They get $. They’re the de facto pro sports team for Spokane, the largest market between Seattle and Minneapolis. I live 300 miles away and saw car commercials with Drew Timme last year on the regional sports network.
Umm, checks map. Spokane is 230,000 people in the wasteland that is eastern Washington. I know, I've made the drive from Seattle to South Dakota. Spokane, Couer d'Alene, and that's it. The mountains of Idaho, then Montana, then nothing.
Also, Fargo, ND, Sioux Falls, SD are both between Minneapolis and Seattle and both 230,000 population cities, and nobody really thinks that's all that big.
Basically, the Big 12 should do this. It would be a huge mistake which is par for the course for that conference.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:42 pm to Jrv2damac
Well, it's just a dumb idea. Big 12 just can't do anything right.
Looking at the Zags market, the Big 12 should invite NDSU. 230,000 people in Fargo, entire state of NoDak and Northern Minnesota. And would come in Day 1 and compete for a Big 12 football title. That would make better sense and is still a crazy idea. I'd invite Memphis first.
Looking at the Zags market, the Big 12 should invite NDSU. 230,000 people in Fargo, entire state of NoDak and Northern Minnesota. And would come in Day 1 and compete for a Big 12 football title. That would make better sense and is still a crazy idea. I'd invite Memphis first.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:49 pm to SoDakHawk
Coming from a guy who must think the Big 10 west is actually a competitive division in college football.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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DePaul used to be a power. St. John's used to be a power, Seton Hall used to be a power. Hell even Georgetown used to be a power.
And if they ever fall off they’ll get half a century to come back before they get written off
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:07 pm to cymark
Can't really argue this year. Big Ten West gets a lot of hate but can hold there own. It's ugly and it will be a street fight though.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:07 pm to SoDakHawk
I agree geographically
I only want states that are apart of real America in this conference
I only want states that are apart of real America in this conference
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:10 pm to SoDakHawk
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And would come in Day 1 and compete for a Big 12 football title.
NDSU would not compete for a Big 12 title. They probably wouldn’t make a bowl game. They lost to Arizona this year.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:16 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Ask any Bison fan and they would tell they would win the Big 12.
As crazy as it sounds I'm so used to them winning everything all the time it wouldn't shock me.
As crazy as it sounds I'm so used to them winning everything all the time it wouldn't shock me.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:17 pm to Jack Ruby
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Nothing like a Tuesday night flight from Houston to Spokane!
Or Spokane to Morgantown.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:22 pm to Snoop Dawg
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Gonzaga is the preeminent Catholic university in the Pacific Northwest
Aside from the obvious geographical challenge, Gonzaga joining the Big East makes so much sense.
Basketball conference with 9 of 11 current members being Catholic.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:29 pm to SoDakHawk
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Ask any Bison fan and they would tell they would win the Big 12. As crazy as it sounds I'm so used to them winning everything all the time it wouldn't shock me.
They have a good thing going in FCS but I don’t see top 4 or 5* recruits flocking to Fargo ND. If they ever join the FBS, they be better off in the MAC or one of the other small conferences.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:10 pm to SoDakHawk
There are high schools that have a bigger student body than Gonzaga.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:18 pm to SoDakHawk
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Umm, checks map. Spokane is 230,000 people in the wasteland that is eastern Washington. I know, I've made the drive from Seattle to South Dakota. Spokane, Couer d'Alene, and that's it. The mountains of Idaho, then Montana, then nothing. Also, Fargo, ND, Sioux Falls, SD are both between Minneapolis and Seattle and both 230,000 population cities, and nobody really thinks that's all that big
You are comparing Spokane’s city limit population with metropolitan population elsewhere. Here’s an apples to apples comparison using metro population:
Greater Spokane - 734,218
Tri-Cities, WA - 303,622
Greater Sioux Falls - 276,630
Greater Fargo-Moorhead - 233,836
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:21 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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There are high schools that have a bigger student body than Gonzaga.
They have over 7,000 students. How many high schools can you name with more?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:37 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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. There's no big money in basketball and Gonzaga caught lighting in a bottle.
I had no idea lightning lasts 2 decades inside a bottle ....
And you couldn't be more wrong (no surprise there) about the money. Conferences get anywhere from 40 to 20 million from the NCAA from the men's tournament. The more teams you get in and advance the more money you get. Adding Gonzaga to the mix with BYU, Cincy, and Houston also will only help them earn more.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:30 pm to BCLA
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Conferences get anywhere from 40 to 20 million from the NCAA from the men's tournament. The more teams you get in and advance the more money you get. Adding Gonzaga to the mix with BYU, Cincy, and Houston also will only help them earn more.
Conferences get about $330K per year for six years for every game a team plays in the tournament. If a team makes the final, they play 6 games so that’s about $2M annually for 6 years or $12M total.
$12M total across 13 teams is less than $1M per team. That money is insignificant compared to football TV money.
If every Big 12 team somehow made it as far as possible, the conference would get 5 teams with 3 payouts, 4 with 4 payouts, 2 with 5 payouts, and 2 with 6 payouts. That’s 53 payouts of $330K or $17.5M annual.
Let’s say they do that 6 years straight, that’s $105M getting paid to the Big XII annually. Divided by 13 teams, they get about $8M per school which is about 25% of the Big XII reported new TV deal.
There’s a reason every football program bailed on the Big East.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 11:51 pm
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