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re: Sources: Gonzaga in talks with Big 12 about joining conference
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:02 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:02 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Mistake for the Big 12. There's no big money in basketball
This isn't about making money at the gate. It's about tv money and that $2.28 Billion dollar agreement between the Big 12 and Fox/ESPN. I'm sure ESPN is trying to spruce up the basketball side with Texas and Oklahoma leaving
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:27 am to YNWA
This is a bad move IMO..for both parties! Here's why, as soon as the B1G expands again and adds Oregon and Washington, the Big 12 will then add Arizona, Arizona St, Utah and Colorado. Gonzaga should wait patiently for the inevitable PAC/MWC merger and go there.
Gonzaga*
Washington St
Oregon St
Cal
Stanford
Boise St
Colorado St
Nevada
San Diego St
UNLV
Wyoming
*No football
Gonzaga*
Washington St
Oregon St
Cal
Stanford
Boise St
Colorado St
Nevada
San Diego St
UNLV
Wyoming
*No football
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 7:29 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:31 am to RLDSC FAN
This would help Gonzaga tremendously. I don't think playing WCC teams for three months does them any favors come tournament time.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:47 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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There's no big money in basketball and Gonzaga caught lighting in a bottle. DePaul used to be a power. St. John's used to be a power, Seton Hall used to be a power. Hell even Georgetown used to be a power.
You're not wrong. If you're not Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke, etc. basketball is not a consistent money maker. Most programs run in the red. Hell, even LSU, a program from a major conference, barely made a profit in basketball in the 2018-2019 fiscal year (the last full fiscal year prior to COVID). Seems like targeting Gonzaga is short-sighted and only seeing the now and not really valuating their prospective worth for the long-term. What happens when Mark Few retires? They have basically no history outside his tenure, and honestly their history for most of his tenure was 1st and 2nd round exits in the NCAAT until the last ~5-7 years. I just don't know how much of a draw they really are to justify inviting them to a major conference. They're certainly a draw when they're one of the best teams in the country, but are they a draw when they're not? And how valuable is the Spokane, WA market worth?
And I know we've long since jumped the shark with conferences and geographic logistics, but The closest Big 12 team to Gonzaga is Kansas St 1500 miles away and I guess considering future members it will be BYU almost 800 miles away.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:54 am to VADawg
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I don't think playing WCC teams for three months does them any favors come tournament time.
They've been a 1 seed in the NCAAT 5 of the last 6 years, so it hasn't hurt them either. They schedule a lot of good OOC games so it balances out for them
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:04 am to lsufball19
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They've been a 1 seed in the NCAAT 5 of the last 6 years, so it hasn't hurt them either. They schedule a lot of good OOC games so it balances out for them
That's not what I meant. Should have clarified. I am a firm believer in the saying "iron sharpens iron". Gonzaga goes months at a time without being challenged or facing even slight adversity. I don't believe they handle tight situations well in tournament games and I believe this is a big reason why.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:36 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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A small commuter school with no real campus that doesn't play football. But the Big12 is like hey! They're hot in basketball right now.
WTF are you talking about. Gonzaga has an awesome campus and most people who attend live on campus.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:23 am to VADawg
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That's not what I meant. Should have clarified. I am a firm believer in the saying "iron sharpens iron". Gonzaga goes months at a time without being challenged or facing even slight adversity. I don't believe they handle tight situations well in tournament games and I believe this is a big reason why.
Eh, I guess kind of, but once they really started winning at an elite level in 2012-2013, they've been to 5 Sweet 16s, 2 Elite 8s, and finished national runner-up twice. Compare them to a blue-blood program like Kentucky, and they're doing just fine in that regard IMO
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:04 pm to VADawg
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Gonzaga goes months at a time without being challenged or facing even slight adversity.
Do they not get everyone’s best shot?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:06 pm to chalmetteowl
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Do they not get everyone’s best shot?
They're so much better than everyone else in that league that they can get everyone's best shot and still win by 25.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:51 pm to RLDSC FAN
That is interesting since they don't play football.That sure would be some long travel.
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