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Is the MCU forgetting its target audience?

Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:24 am
Posted by floyd of pink
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:24 am
With past releases like she-hulk, Thor love and thunder, Ms marvel, etc, it’s pretty evident marvel is on a “girl power” kick. Not only is the girl power movement obvious, they are also making most men in these films/shows bumbling idiots or have zero redeeming qualities.

Thor - he’s an absolute moron in the movie
She hulk - name me one strong positive male character. I’ll wait.

For gods sake, take a look at the most recent black panther poster:



4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.

I’d love to know the statistics of the demographics of MCU viewers. I can’t imagine it’s a majority female crowd.

And before you give me the “WhY dO yOu CaRe?” It’s blatantly obvious. Sorry I’m the one who has to point it out. Plus, I’m sick of she hulk reminding me that every man is a piece of shite.

Also, we as human beings tend to be drawn to people similar to us. So, the majority of the viewers would PROBABLY prefer Disney to lay off the man-hating.

I am a nerd and I love everything marvel, but damn Disney is making me think twice.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:26 am to
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4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.

Dude, Black Panter is an outlier. NOBODY expected it to be the hit it was, and it's main star died suddenly.

There aren't any main male characters left other than M'Baku, who is a stretch as a "main" character.

Posted by Damone
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Is the MCU forgetting it’s target audience?

Babies?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:41 am to
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I’m sick of she hulk reminding me that every man is a piece of shite.
It's the standard rom-com where she goes through the bad apples before she finds a good one or two.

Non-pieces-of-shite men in She-Hulk:
• Bruce Banner
• Jen's Dad
• Emil Blonsky (and his crew of reformed super-villains)
• Wong
• Pug started as shite and is transitioning into a reformed shite
• Luke the tailor
• Matt Murdock

The majority of the shite guys are the men that she ran through on her dating app binge (which turned out to be a plot point for her trademark trial) and a few villains.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 8:52 am to
Eh, you're reaching here. Since the pandemic Marvel has released:

Black Widow
Eternals
Spider-Man
Doctor Strange
Thor

One of those is a movie where the lead is a female, another is a group movie, and the other three are led by male heroes.

Black Panther is only a female because of the passing of Chadwick Boseman.

The next two years you have:

Ant-Man
Guardians
The Marvels
Blade
Captain America
Thunderbolts
Deadpool
Fantastic Four

Again, pretty male heavy.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:07 am to
Take a deep breath and just show me on the doll where Kevin Feige hurt you
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:22 am to
Good God you idiots melt so easily over the dumbest shite. More women in the MCU doesn’t mean some target shift it just means more women and BP only has Shuri because Chadwick died. Thor was still about Thor with him being the same goofy character he was in the last movie.

We also had MCU shows like Loki, Hawkeye, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and Moonknight as well as a Daredevil show coming. Not to mention all he main face of the MCU lately has been Strange
Posted by AUCom96
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:52 am to
You could put a Marvel logo on a literal pile of dog excrement and enough would lap it up to demand a sequel.

Same with Star Wars. Same with all of the other mediocre garbage modern day Disney gets fat off of through NONE of their own creativity or ingenuity.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:33 am to
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4 out of the 5 featured stars are women front and center.


Should’ve recast TChalla
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:26 am to
The MCU is dead as far as I’m concerned. If they had dignity and wanted to end it on a high note, should have just had two Spider-Man sequels, a Doctor Strange sequel, and a Guardians sequel with Thor in tow as epilogues to the MCU. Yes I know there’s too much money on the table to say no to and if Chadwick Boseman were still alive I’d also say do a Black Panther sequel as well, but you’re not topping the Infinity Saga.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:31 am to
Thor: Love and Thunder made more money domestically than any other Thor movie and the only reason it didn't pass Ragnarok in worldwide gross was b/c Disney told China to pound sand when they were told it wouldn't get a release there unless they nixed any of the barely noticeable references to homosexuality.

You can't use it as an example of Marvel forgetting it's target audience when the audiences turned out to see it. On top of that it had to deal w/the fact that everyone knew it'd be on Disney+ within 3 or 4 months. D+ didn't even exist when the Ragnarok came out. Also, theater operators estimate they are still only up to 80% of their pre COVID attendance. So to act like people tuned out on it is just wrong.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:34 am to
It's a gd clam party.

She hulk looks awful.

Agatha and Echo? Who wants that trash?

Also the bait and switch they did in loki and the multiverse of madness where the lady is the actual hero instead of the title character is bs they need to stop that.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:04 pm to
Hasn't every MCU show since Endgame pretty much emasculated/replaced the nominal male lead? Hawkeye was glaringly obvious. But wasn't Loki put in his place by a female on his own show?
Posted by QJenk
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:25 pm to
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She hulk - name me one strong positive male character. I’ll wait.


Bruce Banner
Jenn's dad
Jenn's cousin
Wong
The lawyer played by Josh Segarra
Emil Blonsky and his ragtag group of friends

What do I win?
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5079 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:59 pm to
i think they are testing the waters where they can.

black panther is a good testing point for them. Chadwicks death gives them some room to test. Most of the time when i saw someone losing their shite about how awesome it was to have such a strong African American in a superhero movie it was some middle aged black lady. i could see this being a successful move.

trust me, they having lost sight of shite. its always been making money. If they can make more money with moves that may piss off older loyal fans, they are going to do it.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:28 pm to
I'll give them a pass on Wakanda Forever. Actor for the main character died, and it's not like you can just slap Bucky into that role.
Posted by Lsudx256
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:46 pm to
Because they know “Fan Boys” are neutered and have too much fear of missing out on the Woke-erotic water cooler talk on their online Final Fantasy forums.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:55 pm to
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She hulk - name me one strong positive male character. I’ll wait.


Can't because i don't watch that shite. If you dingleberries would stop watching as well, woah, they might make decent products again.

This is a spectacularly easy concept to learn.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 3:56 pm to
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the majority of the viewers would PROBABLY prefer Disney to lay off the man-hating.


Disney is now being run by the EDI department. It's driving almost every bit of their content. Not surprising.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 6:59 pm to
it feels great knowing that marvel/disney will not get a single penny from me.
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