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21% Of English Do Their Own Dental Work Because There Are So Few Dentists In England

Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:24 am
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45612 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:24 am
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Analysis reveals growing shortages - particularly in rural areas - since the pandemic. The figures show that on average, there is now one NHS dentist per 6,849 people in England - down from one per 6,667 in 2019. Even in the areas with the most NHS dentists, there is less than one NHS dentist per 1,000 people.

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Ashfield in Nottinghamshire has the lowest number of dentists, with just one per 16,129 people, the data from July to September shows.

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The areas with the most NHS dentists for their population are almost all in London, and surrounding counties. The City of London fairs best with one per 1,215, while Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea and Hammersmith and Fulham all near the top of the list.

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21 per cent carried out their own dental work or asked someone who was not a dentist to do so.

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Councils are in charge of running programmes to promote good oral health and prevent problems, particularly among children, while NHS dentists are commissioned by NHS England.

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Eddie Crouch, the chairman of the British Dental Association, said: “The Government must be more ambitious in its plans to reform NHS dentistry. “To save this service we need real commitment – root-and-branch reform and adequate funding.“









Daily Telegraph
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110050 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:39 am to
So what else is new?
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6231 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:58 am to
what the frick does that mean "I excised the tooth myself"
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15925 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:06 am to
Gotta wonder what the private dentists cost. The NHS is running dentists off apparently due to broken contracts.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16421 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 5:36 am to
This is pretty shocking.

I had no idea there were any dentists in England.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5328 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 5:53 am to
I’m not sure what is worse their teeth or their food.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20590 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 6:15 am to
Hasn’t it been this way since the days of the Anglo-Saxon kings?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15105 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 6:21 am to
To be honest we seem to be heading in that direction where I am. The wait time for an appointment is around 4-6 months unless you get lucky and there is a cancelation. I don't know if it's people catching up from putting it off because of Covid or if it's a shortage of dentists in my hometown but the wait times are much longer now
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57589 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 6:56 am to
The Big Book of British Smiles

There's a dentist on every corner in Baton Rouge. I don't know how they earn a living there are so many of them here.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14928 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:00 am to
This is all part of the plan.

Lower reimbursement so no one will go into it. Then say we'll see need to allow non dentists to do much of the work of dentists.

You don't actually need a dentist to pull your tooth. We can have Joe down the street who we trained right out of grade school to just pull teeth. Since that is all he does, he will be better than a dentist!

And they are doing the same thing with doctors as well.
Posted by TigerTroll11
Asheville
Member since Sep 2012
453 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:24 am to
The reimbursement rate is awful. So many are trying to get off the DHS system and just be private pay. I'm thinking these numbers are DHS serving dentists so this is not shocking at all. What's the point of the schooling if you are making 50k a year and dealing with beaurocratic BS ?
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6297 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:28 am to
Not surprising. The NHS is arse. It's severely under funded.

I don't know how, when they pay slave wages and ration services, but it's still underfunded.

NHS pay scale.

Band 1* £20,270

Entry step point Years until eligible for pay progression Top step point
Band 2 £20,270 2 £21,318
Band 3 £21,730 2 £23,177
Band 4 £23,949 3 £26,282

Entry step point Years until eligible for pay progression Intermediate step point Years until eligible for pay progression Top step point
Band 5 £27,055 2 £29,180


Nursing is the only degree that women get in mass in the United States that actually pays well. Imagine if we paid nurses this little. The feminist would be in the streets.

A Band 5 registered nurse is making 30k. That's after years of raises.

I wouldn't even want a nurse who would accept a 30k salary to look after me .

This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 7:34 am
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12365 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:40 am to
England has a large nursing shortage.

Since they have socialized medicine the Government decides how much nurses are paid.

They pay nurses less than teachers and store clerks and it is a tougher job so there is a shortage.

Probably the cause for the dentist shortage as well.

Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
16239 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:45 am to
That is what happens when you put government in charge of health care.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35187 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 7:47 am to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15564 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 8:41 am to
And it shows
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:53 am to
It’s in Vermont. Probably the most progressive state in this nation. Let them live by their own Political beliefs and suffer the consequences.
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
1921 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:51 am to
Couple of years ago I was flying to Ireland on a trip. Sat right next to an Irish fella who was a dentist. His breath smelled like a sewer.

8 hour flight. Torture.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12049 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:28 pm to
This is reminiscent of ancient times when people went to the barber or some other quack in town to have their teeth pulled.

Oh Britannia, where art thou?!?!
Posted by Lone Wolf McQuade
Member since Sep 2022
207 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:12 pm to
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“The Government must be more ambitious in its plans to reform NHS dentistry. “To save this service we need real commitment – root-and-branch reform and adequate funding.“


Do they have subsidized dentistry?
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