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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Mingo Was His NameO
You still fit in that side by side your parents bought from Toys R Us
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:12 pm to Korkstand
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Hopium is working well so far.
Hopium and government subsidies (forcibly taken tax dollars) for vehicles that couldn’t advance in the marketplace without them.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:13 pm to kciDAtaE
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So, I’m supposed to plug-in my phone and my car every night when I sleep?
Highly doubtful you will plug in every night. My wife (no pics) charges once every 2-3 weeks. She's on the low end of the spectrum for sure, but data suggests the average person will charge once every 10-14 days.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:13 pm to kciDAtaE
quote:Well, wireless charging for your phone has been proven commercially, and the same for EVs is not far off. So it will probably end for a lot of people within a decade I'd guess.
So, I’m supposed to plug-in my phone and my car every night when I sleep?! Good lord, when will
It end?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:17 pm to weagle99
quote:When technical and logical arguments fail you fall back to political ones, eh?
Hopium and government subsidies (forcibly taken tax dollars) for vehicles that couldn’t advance in the marketplace without them.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:27 pm to zeto
quote:Most of this is the case for the vast majority of EV owners. I'm not sure why some in this thread just refuse to believe it.
As an EV owner since the beginning of June, my experience is charging about every 6 days at home, at night. I'll typically charge from 20% to 80%, which takes approximately 6 hours. The only times I have used the Super Chargers is on out of state road trips.
Most charge at night. Most charge to an amount less than 100%. You mentioned you charge every 6 days. That may be the only one that "most" don't do but even that I'm not sure about. I charge every night. If the car is in the garage, it's plugged in at all times. It charges up to 70% starting at 2am every night.
And same, super chargers are only for longer trips. That's obviously not the case for everyone, but that's the majority we're talking about here.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:30 pm to weagle99
quote:We've reached the part of the thread where we pretend only EVs got subsidies and ICE car companies never got any types of subsidies or bailouts
Hopium and government subsidies (forcibly taken tax dollars) for vehicles that couldn’t advance in the marketplace without them.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:30 pm to kciDAtaE
quote:THE HORROR!!!
So, I’m supposed to plug-in my phone and my car every night when I sleep?! Good lord, when will
It end?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:43 pm to shel311
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We've reached the part of the thread where we pretend only EVs got subsidies and ICE car companies never got any types of subsidies or bailouts
Let's not forget that tOT's favorite power generation method, nuclear, would require MASSIVE amounts of government subsidy for any new nuclear power plants to be built and operated.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:44 pm to Korkstand
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When technical and logical arguments fail you fall back to political ones, eh?
Don’t act like they are inseparable when it comes to this topic. And the OP is a technical observation based on real world data.
I’m curious about folks who I see on the web who never can seem to admit there could be anything negative about electric vehicles. What is the motivation? Are you just true believers? Own stock in EV related companies? Paid to post to sway public opinion?
I can admit there are some things that I like about EV options. I wonder if folks like you can ever admit there are things you don’t like?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:48 pm to weagle99
quote:I think the better question is when posters reply and correct inaccurate info which is seen in bunches in OT EV threads, why do you extrapolate that to lean they think EVs are perfect?
I’m curious about folks who I see on the web who never can seem to admit there could be anything negative about electric vehicles. What is the motivation? Are you just true believers? Own stock in EV related companies? Paid to post to sway public opinion?
I can admit there are some things that I like about EV options. I wonder if folks like you can ever admit there are things you don’t like?
Do you think it's better to let the incorrect posts go and everyone just run wild hating on EVs with bad info?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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would require MASSIVE amounts of government subsidy for any new nuclear power plants to be built and operated.
Like the ones they just got in the Inflation Reduction Act?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:50 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Let's not forget that tOT's favorite power generation method, nuclear, would require MASSIVE amounts of government subsidy for any new nuclear power plants to be built and operated.
That is blamed on all the regs and such. Obviously everything would be perfect if we would just let the free market handle nuclear unhindered.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:00 pm to weagle99
quote:And did you think 87% charge efficiency was big news worthy of a thread? It's on the low end compared to the more efficient systems, but what were you expecting? If EVs don't break the laws of physics then it's a "nail in the coffin"? It's just silly.
And the OP is a technical observation based on real world data.
quote:There are legit downsides, and every EV supporter that I've seen on this board "admits" and acknowledges them. I'm curious about this alternate reality that you live in where that doesn't happen.
I’m curious about folks who I see on the web who never can seem to admit there could be anything negative about electric vehicles.
quote:Personally, my motivation for supporting EVs is due to several reasons, none of which are environmental. I've been through it all on numerous occasions here, and you've probably looked right past all of it too busy trying to think of the next bogus argument against them.
What is the motivation?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:04 pm to weagle99
We burn 369,000,000 gallons of gasoline per day in the US. That has to be replaced by power stations. While a natural gas power plant is more efficient than a gasoline car engine, there are transmission and conversion losses, so its about a net wash as far as efficiency goes.
In any case, that is what needs to be replaced.
Convert 369 million gallons into KWH, and you begin to see what it has to replace every day. Its a lot, about 1.23 x 10^10 Kilowatt Hours per day.
I'm pretty sure that's going to cause problems.
And that's not including diesel.
In any case, that is what needs to be replaced.
Convert 369 million gallons into KWH, and you begin to see what it has to replace every day. Its a lot, about 1.23 x 10^10 Kilowatt Hours per day.
I'm pretty sure that's going to cause problems.
And that's not including diesel.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:07 pm to shel311
Fuel taxes built and maintained the roads electric cars will drive on, how long before they get taxed for it?
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:09 pm to 200MPHCOBRA
quote:I believe that's already in the works if not in place in some places.
Fuel taxes built and maintained the roads electric cars will drive on, how long before they get taxed for it?
Could be wrong but if not, ev owners should pay a fair share for that.
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This boards obsession with hoping EV's fail is weird.
The post immediately before your rather stupid statement!
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Again, that's why forcing electric down people's throats before legit progress is made in technology is really dumb.
We don’t wish they fail a-hole. They aren’t saving anything. To get the batteries you have to mine the lithium and nickel which pays Russia and China since our tree hugging dipshits in DC won’t let’s us do that in the States. Then you pay out the arse for a vehicle that get you 300 miles before you need to charge it 6 to 8 hours. Lastly that electricity isn’t coming from nuclear. It may partially come from oh so inefficient solar or wind but more likely comes from coal! So all this pushing EVs is glorified virtue signaling that only a fricking moron can get behind!
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:19 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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