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Ukraine started the war with Russia

Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10782 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:35 pm
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/osce-reports-reveal-ukraine-started

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While both sides accuse the other side of being the aggressor, the OSCE maps clearly show that the Ukrainian side backed by the United States and NATO forces began shelling the Russian side on February 16th, 2022. This shelling is corroborated by on-the-ground video journalism from an independent reporter named Patrick Lancaster who has been interviewing civilians in the eastern Ukrainian warzone for the last eight years.

On February 17th 2022, Lancaster reported on the increased shelling coming from the Ukrainian side and interviewed residents living along the contact line in the Donetsk region.

On February 19th, Lancaster reported on the Ukrainian military shelling two power plants knocking out electricity for multiple villages in Donetsk.

. . .

In summary, the Biden administration and U.S. political officials with the help of the corporate media are once again lying, manipulating, and deceiving the public into another war based on false pretenses.

The OSCE reports and Patrick Lancaster’s on-the-ground reporting clearly show that Ukraine began shelling the independent republics of Donetsk and Luhansk nine days before Russia announced its ‘special military operation’ in Ukraine.

The same discredited neoconservative and neoliberal establishment that lied about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya are once again lying about Russia and Ukraine.

A diplomatic solution with Russia might have involved something as simple as demilitarization of Ukraine and a signed treaty promising Ukraine would never join NATO, but the U.S. political establishment wanted this hot proxy war with nuclear-armed Russia so they created it.

Ukraine started shelling the Russian-speaking people of the Donbas on February 16th, 2022, while Joe Biden went on television and told the American people that Russia was about to invade Ukraine.


Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2535 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
this conflict has been ongoing since 2014.
Posted by Brandonthepotato
Port Gobson
Member since May 2022
134 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
AZOV-NAZIS paid for by Soros and the DNC money laundering committee set all of this in motion for sure.

Zelenski was a 2014 coup d’etat which allowed the banana republic thrive and murder its political foes.

They poked the bear and thought the bidenmites would come running to defend their treacherous behavior.

It isn’t working out the way they thought it would.

Z
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19436 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:19 pm to
It’s factually correct, that the Ukrainians moved a lot of their forces into the Donbas in February, and that the Ukrainians dramatically increased their shelling of the Republics that month.

I assume they were going to try and take them.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35482 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

This shelling is corroborated by on-the-ground video journalism from an independent reporter named Patrick Lancaster
Well known propagandist for Putin.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12267 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:45 pm to
I don't know if it's true or not but honestly it wouldn't surprise me at all
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15384 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:52 pm to
Seems like a very reliable website. So did the Ukrainians start firing missiles into the country of Russia, or into the Eastern portions of Ukraine, that were controlled by Russian backed separatists?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
833 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:48 pm to
Poor Russia. Always the victim!

Is this a good time to talk about the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45406 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:52 pm to
Ukraine and Russia are like a couple in a horrible dysfunctional marriage where Ukraine is a lying slut who is a terrible mother and wife that has been sleeping around and taking money from douchebag men while Russia is a domineering brute who has begun beating the shite out of her while yelling SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO while tearing up the house and grabbing her by the hair and throwing her out the front door
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15254 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:15 pm to
Water under the bridge man. Oh and everybody knows the US sucks right?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30043 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:37 pm to
Amazing big coincidence that the second we are done with Afghanistan we immediately have a new war. Truly amazing.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1126 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Ukraine started the war with Ukraine


FIFY
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10915 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:58 am to
This is bullshite

quote:

OSCE maps clearly show that the Ukrainian side backed by the United States and NATO forces began shelling the Russian side on February 16th, 2022


Ukrainian forces have been shelling Russian held lands since the end of the 2014 conflict.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46418 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 7:02 am to
I didn’t read the complete OP but what you’re saying is we should trust independent reporting and not our own state media? Why would our government lie to us? We must have confidence and faith in our leaders and our media…..until proven otherwise they’re still the “good guys”……lol!
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15345 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 7:37 am to
Military Industrial Complex under Biden getting mega rich while the American economy dives into a recession and warns of massive job losses to come. Mean while gas soars, stock markets dive, prices rise, shortages. Scary times, but at least the politicians who supported the MIC are getting rich.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Ukraine started the war with Russia


How dumb do you have to be to believe this?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45235 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:20 am to
Yeah I believe this Russia just massed a 100,000 plus soldiers on the border for shits and giggles.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
4052 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 12:04 pm to
Don’t forget Ukraine are the aggressors in this situation. Russia is just trying to defend itself.
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