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Court must decide if an elephant is a person

Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:34 pm
KSL.com news

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ALBANY, N.Y. — She has four limbs, expressive eyes and likes to stroll through greenery in New York City. Happy, by species, is an Asian elephant. But is she also a person?

That's the question before New York's highest court Wednesday in a closely watched case over whether a basic human right can be extended to an animal.

Her advocates at the Nonhuman Rights Project say yes: Happy is an autonomous, cognitively complex elephant worthy of the right reserved in law for "a person." The Bronx Zoo, where Happy resides, says no: Through an attorney, the zoo argues Happy is neither imprisoned nor a person, but a well-cared-for elephant "respected as the magnificent creature she is."


Posted by tigafan4life
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:35 pm to
I mean no one knows what a woman is so this fits todays clown world.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
An Asian Elephant? Forget about being human or animal, that is freaking racist!
Posted by Adam4LSU
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
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ALBANY, N.Y. — She has four limbs, expressive eyes and likes to stroll through greenery in New York City. Happy, by species, is an Asian elephant. But is she also a person?


How fricking dare they assume the elephant identifies as Asian

ETA: God damnit, aggie.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:36 pm to
Thanks for Salt Lake City’s take on a New York State issue.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:37 pm to
All people are animals, but not all animals are people.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:37 pm to
I know clown world gets thrown around a lot, but the fact that this story is happening now, while we are seeing absolute meltdowns over the Row v Wade rumor, is just wonderful.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Happy, by species, is an Asian elephant.


Posted by Sao
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by adamau
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Court must decide if an elephant is a person


No. Case Dismissed.
Posted by DarkDrifter
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Court must decide if an elephant is a person



Pretty sure an elephant is an elephant
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 1:49 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Pretty an elephant is an elephant
Words talk you not good?
Posted by caro81
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:44 pm to
this is nothing new. animal rights activists having been trying to pull this type of shite in court for decades. their hope is to finally win one which slides the foot into the door to add this right to all animals and to put a stop to animal ownership, use, farming, and research.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:45 pm to
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She has four limbs

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But is she also a person?

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Her advocates at the Nonhuman Rights Project say yes

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respected as the magnificent creature she is."


Pretty fricking presumptive in this day, eh? Did anyone bother to ask the elephant?
Posted by DarkDrifter
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Words talk you not good


I swear I'm not drinkin
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:50 pm to
I mean.. it is ridiculous to equate it to a person... but perhaps it is time to acknowledge that some animals are more sentient and intelligent than others: Apes, dolphins/whales, elephants, and others. Not sure what criteria would be.

Maybe a slippery slope cuz I don't want to give up bacon or steak anytime soon, but clearly some animals fall into a higher status territory when it comes to conscious behavior.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:51 pm to
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decide if an elephant is a person


Happy about to find out about rent and taxes
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 5/18/22 at 1:53 pm to
I was wondering just this very thing yesterday....

If someone come and tried to kill your cat and you shoot them in the cat's self defense... Are you clear because the Cat was part of the family, and you were defending family?

lawyers????
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 1:55 pm
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