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re: Buffalo Shooter Was A Known Entity To Police: Made Violent Threats At High School…
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:00 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:00 am to Toomer Deplorable
There are a lot of Posters on this Forum who are "known Entities" (for obvious 'threatening speech') to Federal Institutions which monitor and police the citizenry and try to head this stuff off. The problematic issue for pre-emptive action is that to the degree said Institutions tighten the screws on honest folk who BELIEVE that the 'Government' (Deep State) has become an Entity which serves "fundamental change" and the end of Constitutional Principle re God-given Rights.
It's one thing to deal with yahoos like this Shooter, it's quite another to piss off honest folk protecting their beloved children from a 'government' which they perceive as Fascist, bordering on pure Evil. The honest and loving folk are on the verge of action, in the "whatever it takes" category. I suspect that it will the Left's reaction (unadulterated outrage/violence) to the Right's coming 'Red Wave' this Fall, and then the Right's reaction to said violence. Fire with fire in the future. And the 'Government' will be able to little more than get in the middle. If they choose one Side or the other, then thery become fair game for the forsaken Side. And off we go into the process which always determines allocation of power. "The barrel of a gun".
It's one thing to deal with yahoos like this Shooter, it's quite another to piss off honest folk protecting their beloved children from a 'government' which they perceive as Fascist, bordering on pure Evil. The honest and loving folk are on the verge of action, in the "whatever it takes" category. I suspect that it will the Left's reaction (unadulterated outrage/violence) to the Right's coming 'Red Wave' this Fall, and then the Right's reaction to said violence. Fire with fire in the future. And the 'Government' will be able to little more than get in the middle. If they choose one Side or the other, then thery become fair game for the forsaken Side. And off we go into the process which always determines allocation of power. "The barrel of a gun".
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:05 am to Epaminondas
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:07 am to BoarEd
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He used the same symbols in his manifesto as the Christchurch shooter and the AZOV Battalion. He's a literal Nazi. He is a pawn of the left.
These are the words of a dipshit.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:12 am to Toomer Deplorable
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State Police were sent to investigate and Gendron, under a section of state mental health laws, was referred for a mental health evaluation and counseling, the official said.
Not a hate crime because of mental illness.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:51 am to Toomer Deplorable
Have they released any info on the victims? I will be interested to see if they are predominantly minority.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:58 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:58 am to boosiebadazz
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What else could they do at that point? He had committed nothing but WrongThink at that point in time.
Making violent threats is not a free speech issue or a case of “WrongThink.” It is a crime.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:02 am to mmcgrath
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This goes back to my main belief that kids showing mental health issues should be barred from buying a gun until at least 21 and have to get a positive psychiatric review before buying one.
A few Questions. and I’m not trying to be an a-hole.
1. Do you think tying gun ownership to mental health screenings will have people be honest and open with a psychiatrist? Will this help get men (you know, men will do anything before going to a therapist mantra) to accept therapy or will it lead to more distrust and pushback?
2) do you think this will lead to pro/anti gun rights psychiatrist being sought out by their respective sides? Those pushing for this will obviously want the potential buyer to visit psychiatrist that are anti gun while the buyer will obviously search out a pro-gun psychiatrist.
3) what mental health issues exactly would cause a red flag? How would this be decided? How long will they be prevented from owning a gun and what is the method for being “okayed” again?
4) how does this stop criminals from breaking a law?
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:22 am to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:25 am to beerJeep
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A few Questions. and I’m not trying to be an a-hole.
1. Do you think tying gun ownership to mental health screenings will have people be honest and open with a psychiatrist? Will this help get men (you know, men will do anything before going to a therapist mantra) to accept therapy or will it lead to more distrust and pushback?
Four points on that.
1. These mass shooters always find a way to let people know where their heads are at. They don't keep it a secret. This guy would've absolutely let a shrink or therapist know he had dark and violent thoughts. He may not have confessed a plan but he certainly would've raised giant red flags.
2. An MMPI (Minnesota multi-phasic personality inventory) would all but certainly tease out his violent thoughts and/or anti-social traits. The test would be near impossible for someone like him to fool.
3. Mental illness didn't cause this. Just sit with that for a moment. I'm not saying he isn't mentally ill. What I'm saying is that an Axis I diagnosis such as psychosis or Bipolar disorder did not trigger this. This behavior is rooted in an Axis II diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder. He, like so many others who fill our prisons see people as objects and not living/feeling entities. He shows the traits of a characterlogical disorder, not a neuro-psychiatric disease.
4. Here's an interesting fact for all of you to sit with. The mentally ill commit acts of violence at the same rate as the general population. No more, no less.
If you were to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, you would do it not because they will use the gun on you but because they are five times more likely to use it on themselves.
Find a way to keep guns out of the hands of a criminal or a fledgling criminal. From a community danger stand point, the mentally ill aren't the problem and they never have been.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 10:56 am
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:40 am to mmcgrath
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This goes back to my main belief that kids showing mental health issues should be barred from buying a gun until at least 21 and have to get a positive psychiatric review before buying one. More than half of these nutty mass shooters show severe mental health issues and violence in school.
I guess you also think kids who are violent in school should probably give up the right to vote as well, at least until they’re cleared by a positive psychiatric review. Get in a fight, give up your ballot.
Right?
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:46 am to Flats
Buffalo Shooter References Ukrainian Azov Battalion Nazi Symbols, Hated Those Opposing US Involvement In Ukraine Conflict
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2022/05/14/buffalo-shooter-references-ukrainian-azov-battalion-nazi-symbols-hated-those-opposing-us-involvement-in-ukraine-conflict/
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/analysis/2022/05/14/buffalo-shooter-references-ukrainian-azov-battalion-nazi-symbols-hated-those-opposing-us-involvement-in-ukraine-conflict/
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The Buffalo shooter published a manifesto which showed support for the same symbols used by the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine. He also expressed hatred for those against US military involvement in the Ukraine conflict.
In other words, he supported the globalist agenda in Ukraine and showed sympathy for Nazi elements in-country.
He also expressed hatred for Fox News, which is opposite what mainstream reporting is putting out.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:49 am to Kjnstkmn
Turning this guy into a household name and publishing his bullshite manifesto is what will insure these things persist.
We don’t report or televise streakers for this very reason! Wtf?!?
We should publish his browser history and testimony from previous girlfriends detailing his small peen and tendency for premature ejaculation.
We don’t report or televise streakers for this very reason! Wtf?!?
We should publish his browser history and testimony from previous girlfriends detailing his small peen and tendency for premature ejaculation.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:50 am to Kjnstkmn
Dude why are you latching on to the Sam Hyde stuff so much? The shooter put that in there as a joke. He loved 4chan. Sam Hyde is a 4chan joke.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:51 am to Pandy Fackler
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Four points on that.
Correct, it would most likely sniff out some of the extremes. I was more speaking on the “normal” people though.
Is someone that is depressed going to seek out treatment for their depression if that treatment will strip them of something they enjoy?
Is someone going to be upfront and honest about certain aspects of their life and mental health if they think they will lose something if they are honest?
Yeah, a psychiatrist can eventually sniff these things out, but that takes time and money.
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you were to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, you would do it not because they will use the gun on you but because they are five times more likely to use it on themselves.
Sad but true.
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Find a way to keep guns out of the hands of a criminal or a fledgling criminal. From a community danger stand point, the mentally ill aren't the problem and they never have been.
You have to be extremely tough on violent crime. Too many repeat violent offenders getting plea deals and short sentences.
Tying mental health screening to gun ownership ain’t the way.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:51 am to Kjnstkmn
The Buffalo Shooter Manifesto Is Just A Wishlist For The ATF To Go After Gun Manufacturers – He’s Listing All The Manufacturers And Parts That You Can Get From Them
red state nation
red state nation
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A manifesto was allegedly written by the suspect in a mass shooting at a Buffalo supermarket that killed 10.
The manifesto, which appears to be written by 18-year-old Payton Gendron, included a shared birth date and biographical details with the suspect in custody. The PDF was originally posted to Google Docs at 8:55 p.m. Thursday, two days before the shooting, according to file data accessed by the Red State Nation.
The manifesto is just a wishlist for the AFT to go after gun manufacturers. He’s listing all the manufacturers and parts that you can get from them. It just goes on for pages and pages.
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Google Docs has blocked access to the shooter’s online manifesto.
Here is my honest theory of what’s going to happen. The gun grabbers are going to point to the gun parts industry and cry about how there’s a “loophole” to buy firearms parts and how all parts in the industry down to your trigger need to be controlled through a background check.
It’s called accelerationism.
Extremists want confiscation to force a fight between gun owners and the ATF
Perfect timing to start gun confiscations in case they cheat again during Midterms.
Seems like a manufactured event to promote civil discourse to keep people away from the elections and prob go after the second amendment.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 11:16 am
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:55 am to The Boat
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Dude why are you latching on to the Sam Hyde stuff so much? The shooter put that in there as a joke. He loved 4chan. Sam Hyde is a 4chan joke.
He didn't write that manifesto, some clown in America did.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:01 am to Pandy Fackler
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4. Here's an interesting fact for all of you to sit with. The mentally ill commit acts of violence at the same rate as the general population. No more, no less.
If you were to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, you would do it not because they will use the gun on you but because they are five times more likely to use it on themselves.
Find a way to keep guns out of the hands of a criminal or a fledgling criminal. From a community danger stand point, the mentally ill aren't the problem and they never have been.
As I said, their solution is to remove our weapons. This "dipshit" confirms it when it says they want to take weapons from potential criminals and "mentally ill" people alike.
Of course, you'll probably need a Ministry of Truth to determine who is a potential criminal and ebo is mentally ill...
...oh wait.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:06 am to Kjnstkmn
It makes you look like you don’t get the joke. Which you don’t. There’s plenty of other stuff in that 180 pages of crap to dissect. The Sam Hyde stuff was an obvious joke.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 11:08 am to Kjnstkmn
Didn't the "Ghost of Kyiv" also end up being this Sam Hyde character?
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