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re: Roe opponents, what do you really, really want?

Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:28 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:28 am to
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What about the doctor who performs the abortion? He would be guilty of homicide under the proposed Louisiana law.


It’s not an abortion when you are performing that type of procedure.

The purpose of an abortion is the direct and purposeful killing of an unborn child. The purpose of the procedure we are discussing is saving the life of the woman. The death of the child is an indirect but inevitable result.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49014 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:28 am to
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You’re gonna be financing it for at least 18 years and likely well past that.


Better to kill it then amirite?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:34 am to
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Except if you disagree with them, then it’s cool to use the gov to step in between the woman and her doctor.


I love the way the left frames this. Irresponsibly fricking a guy and getting knocked up, then paying a physician to rip the fetus up and vacuum the dead bits out of your womb because you dont want to be inconvenienced by motherhood is framed as a "personal healthcare decision between a woman and her doctor". As if we are stopping medical professionals from providing vital and lifesaving medical care to women. Laughable.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
26070 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:37 am to
States choose.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:37 am to
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As if we are stopping medical professionals from providing vital and lifesaving medical care to women. Laughable.

It's also the same people who outlawed a pharmicist or a doctor's right to conscientiously object to assisting in abortion
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:40 am to
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You’re gonna be financing it for at least 18 years and likely well past that


Perhaps if we didnt make erasing a pregnancy as easy as getting a tooth pulled, young people would make better decisions with sex, use protection, or take responsibility for their unplanned child like they did prior to RvW. Less communicable disease, less unwanted pregnancies, more opportunities and less emotional trauma for young people. But we cant have all that, can we? Shaquita is DTF, so we cant dare infringe on those sacred rights.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7867 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:47 am to
The responses may shock you, but the overwhelming majority want the states to choose.

Roe was decided improperly. I want the courts to judge the constitutionality of laws, not attempt to make the laws.

We have 535 retards in DC we overpay to do that.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:48 am to
where i'm at with it: abortion is needed in America. there will always be abortions in this country, at least make them safe. The abortion pill is a cheap easy method to erase a mistake and not bring an unwanted child into this world.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:49 am to
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at least make them safe.

Safe for whom?

No.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:52 am to
safe for the person carrying the fetus. but it needs to be done quickly. not this waiting it out for months bullshite.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:53 am to
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abortion is needed in America


Is it? Birth rates in the US continued to climb for decades post Roe. You know what else climbed? Fatherlessness, teen pregnancies, divorce, female depression, suicides, contraction of STDs, and the general destruction of the nuclear family.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:54 am to
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safe for the person carrying the fetus.

Every abortion has a 50% death rate. What other medical procedure can boast that?
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 8:55 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29509 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:02 am to
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Why tell this lie?



What lie?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22194 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:06 am to
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What lie?


Show all the people who opposed a procedure on an ectopic pregnancy, which is NOT a viable pregnancy. The baby will die, Oweo-who-walks.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141557 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:07 am to
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What lie?


It was quoted, doofus.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67775 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:09 am to
I think something can be said for having options to move To different states that fit you

I also Think we’re may more a cohesive country as a whole than when they were writing the constitution. We were a confederation at the time and loosely bound, and federalism represents a compromise.

My issue with state government is that generally they’re somehow even less competent than federal government.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22194 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:12 am to
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My issue with state government is that generally they’re somehow even less competent than federal government.



In states run by leftists, that's absolutely true.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29509 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:17 am to
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like they did prior to RvW



You know what happened prior to RvW? Coat hanger. Actual babies in dumpsters. Things like that.


Or…….the government could not come between a woman and her doctor and allow safe abortions to end a pregnancy while it's early and not developed into an actual child but rather just a fetus (I’m against the states that allow it all the way up until birth though unless for whatever reason the mother's health became in danger for whatever reason).
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101974 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:17 am to
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My issue with state government is that generally they’re somehow even less competent than federal government.


But it's far easier to extract yourself from a state whose government you find particularly unpalatable than it is a whole country.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67775 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:25 am to
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But it's far easier to extract yourself from a state whose government you find particularly unpalatable than it is a whole country.


It still all depends on money.
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