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re: Will Woody’s self imposed death penalty limit the NCAA penalties?

Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7641 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:18 pm to
Obviously that’s the plan
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37931 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 4:36 pm to
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You realize any new coach can come in and recruit well and lose the first round like Wades teams always did right?
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How many times did Wade’s teams lose in the first round? I know you won’t answer.
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One too many dude. This year was his “best” team everyone said and they folded.
That's a pussy cop out of a response and you know it.

The only Wade team to lose in the first round was this season in which he was fired the week prior.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but don't throw out nonfactual garbage for no reason.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31229 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 5:26 pm to
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Since 2017 the AD didn’t bitch about the money that was made by the basketball program outside of COVID restrictions including that fat bastard Woody.



What’s that have to do with anything?

And for the record, basketball has shown a profit outside of the COVID19 crap every year since 2012
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23086 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:20 am to
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Did Woody kick out all the players?
of course not but I can’t think of a bigger ‘frick you’ to the players than firing their coach right before the tournament that they busted their asses to get into all year. They got the message about how LSU felt about them and reacted.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30734 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:22 am to
Wade gutted the program. Not woodrow


Woody not on tape with joint accounts helping hotties.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:37 am to
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Will Woody’s self imposed death penalty limit the NCAA penalties?


You Will Wade cult members apparently don’t live in reality.
(1) The NCAA has PROOF (checks, emails, etc) of Will Wade paying players.
(2) The NCAA has PROOF of Will Wade working through crooked AAU coaches and making “strong arse offers”.
(3) Will Wade lied to LSU, the FBI, & the NCAA and denied ANY WRONGDOING. LSU rewrote Will Wade’s contract to include the clause to fire with cause and not pay him schit if Wade was cheating. Wade agreed to it snd signed it.

So where did Scott Woodward impose a death penalty. If Woodward attempted to support Wade in this situation he would be exposing LSU to gross sanctions from the NCAA and be fired. So what would you do in Woodward’s situation? Some of you are nuts.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6458 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:52 am to
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You Will Wade cult members apparently don’t live in reality. (1) The NCAA has PROOF (checks, emails, etc) of Will Wade paying players. (2) The NCAA has PROOF of Will Wade working through crooked AAU coaches and making “strong arse offers”. (3) Will Wade lied to LSU, the FBI, & the NCAA and denied ANY WRONGDOING. LSU rewrote Will Wade’s contract to include the clause to fire with cause and not pay him schit if Wade was cheating. Wade agreed to it snd signed it. So where did Scott Woodward impose a death penalty. If Woodward attempted to support Wade in this situation he would be exposing LSU to gross sanctions from the NCAA and be fired. So what would you do in Woodward’s situation? Some of you are nuts.


I agree and understand that Woodward was essentially forced into firing WW. Wade made some very immature mistakes on his own part and these mistakes forced LSU to part ways.

What is laughable are the people that make this situation seem that Wade was the only coach in the country involved with paying players. Also, the posters that claim our teams weren’t good and we never made an elite 8, blah blah blah. Do y’all realize where this program was pre-Wade? Do y’all realize how quick he turned the program around? The dude was doing more right than just paying players.

In short.

Wade made mistakes and forced LSU to part ways. Should of had a middle man, it’s how every other school has avoided firing their head coach.

Wade did more in 5 years than the LSU program has done in 30 years.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
7899 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:56 am to
Guess Kansas should have cut the cancer they call Bill Self also? Playing for a national championship isn’t important
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 8:58 am to
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Wade did more in 5 years than the LSU program has done in 30 years.


Will Wade was stupid and got caught. Regarding other coaches, I can’t remember ever hearing of a Coach dumb enough the pay players from his personal checking account. It’s just beyond idiotic.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7920 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 9:29 am to
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thats twice they've struck right before march madness


The NCAA was never going to let Wade have any success at all in the tournament. It just wasn't going to happen.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21851 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 9:35 am to
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Woody not on tape with joint accounts helping hotties.


I'd argue that woodward has gutted the program by not investing a single fricking dime into basketball the past few years.

God forbid he use a few hundred thousand dollars of that $6.9 million LSU DISASTER of a contract to fricking patch the roof at the PMAC and practice facilities, you know so it doesn't leak while playing a top 15 team in Tennessee.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59193 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 9:37 am to
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Will Woody’s self imposed death penalty


The death penalties where the program is completely shut down. LSU will still have a team next year.

People talk about the Woody cult but it’s the haters determined that o trash every thing he does that are the real cult.
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
1693 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 9:53 am to
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This year was his “best” team everyone said and they folded.


Lol who TF said this?
Posted by SECmeister
Member since Mar 2021
12 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 1:32 pm to
It’s all speculative but I doubt the NCAA will show any mercy for terminating WW at this late date. It’s entirely possible that had Woodward fired Wade early on, say when Wade initially refused to meet with the administration, the NCAA would have taken the discharge into consideration.

Instead, Woodward chose to restructure the contract and before you know it 2-3 years went by with no impact on recruiting or wins and losses. At this point, LSU should look for a minimum of a two year post season ban and whatever scholarship losses the NCAA deeme appropriate. Anything less will be a pleasant surprise imo.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5113 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:09 pm to
No one will ever know if it did or didn't help with the NCAA as far as penalties is concerned, even though it certainly didn't hurt LSU in the eyes of the NCAA.

One thing we absolutely DO know is that 100% of the penalties LSU receives are due to the actions of Will Wade. When the sanctions come down, don't blame Woodward. Your boy Will gets all the credit for those.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5788 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:10 pm to
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Nope won't do a single thing except give Woodward another year and more money.

So he’s on the hot seat now?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9294 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:13 pm to
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You heard it from the Oklahoma State coach earlier this year
"Do not work with these people."

Referring to the NCAA.


I think Woodwards ties to Emmert did us in.

I'm not sold on Woody as some are. We will see what size his Balls are soon.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5113 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 2:14 pm to
True, but Woodward wasn't the AD when Wade refused to meet with the administration, Joe Alleva was. If he had fired Will Wade then (and apparently he wanted to, and had cause to do so), LSU would have avoided this mess.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3395 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 5:53 pm to
Can you imagine if this happened prior to the portal?
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If it happened prior to the portal, they wouldn’t be able to transfer and have immediate eligibility.

What’s the likelihood they all transfer under those conditions?
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3395 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 6:07 pm to
It’s all speculative but I doubt the NCAA will show any mercy for terminating WW at this late date.
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I think it was all predetermined (penalties) and a deal was worked out behind the scenes beforehand.

Basketball was sacrificed to protect the football program, I don’t think Kelly comes here unless he is assured otherwise.

This, considering Woodward’s professional and personal relationship with Emmert.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 6:10 pm
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