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re: What does this board have against Jameis?
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:13 pm to Hailstate15
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:13 pm to Hailstate15
Despite what has happened the past year or two, it’s pretty hard to get a real franchise QB in Free Agency or even trade. Those guys don’t come available that often.
Obviously if one does sure. (I’m not a Kyler guy at all.)
I think it’s more likely they draft a guy high sometime in the next year or three and Jameis acts as a bridge.
Obviously if one does sure. (I’m not a Kyler guy at all.)
I think it’s more likely they draft a guy high sometime in the next year or three and Jameis acts as a bridge.
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:15 pm to Hailstate15
Fuk em right in the Pu$$$$$$y
and Let’s go Eat that W, are two reasons if I had to guess. Hard to unsee that….
Not to mention the college rapey story and the Uber driver sexual assault…..
and Let’s go Eat that W, are two reasons if I had to guess. Hard to unsee that….
Not to mention the college rapey story and the Uber driver sexual assault…..
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:18 pm to Fun Bunch
I would love to get Winston on a 2-year deal, sign arnstead, sign a wr, and maybe draft a qb in the 1st if we like one.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:20 pm to Hailstate15
I like him they should sign him immediately
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:22 pm to Hailstate15
He has a large body of work. He has demonstrated that he is not capable of leading an NFL team to the playoffs and Super Bowl. This is all I have against him. I would rather the Saints try to find someone else that has a chance to take a team to the next level.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:38 pm to Delusional
Yes ignore the wonderlic and the fact that scouts themselves compared his football iq to Peyton Manning. Then you have Steve Mariucci, who coached Steve Young, saying he was the smartest Xs and Os prospect he had ever put on the whiteboard. But yea, you probably know more than those guys.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:39 pm to Hailstate15
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Bro had a 4.0 in college and his wonderlic is 1 point off Peyton Manning’s
Doesn't measure maturity.
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How can Saints fans watch Ian Book and Trevor fricking Semien and hate on Jameis?
Semien can stay gone. Leave Book out of it. He was put in a game we never should have played. Anyone judging him by that game is an idiot. No quarterback would have won that game or looked much better. I think everyone spent so many years hating Winston it never really went away for everyone. Plus he still makes bonehead plays more than he should. Had some lucky breaks on passes that should have been picks.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:44 pm to Townedrunkard
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Fuk em right in the Pu$$$$$$y
and Let’s go Eat that W, are two reasons if I had to guess. Hard to unsee that….
Not to mention the college rapey story and the Uber driver sexual assault…..
And you're okay with the 22 allegations?
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:46 pm to Hailstate15
The biggest argument I have seen and try to counter is the 30/30 season. Many posters stat watch and can’t see everything else around it. Only season that bad, Arians history, the style of offense they were forcing him to run…
Give him 1 good full season, I think you’ll see 50% of those come of the ledge. There will always be a segment of the “yea, but…” that will never change their opinions
Give him 1 good full season, I think you’ll see 50% of those come of the ledge. There will always be a segment of the “yea, but…” that will never change their opinions
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:52 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
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Yes ignore the wonderlic and the fact that scouts themselves compared his football iq to Peyton Manning. Then you have Steve Mariucci, who coached Steve Young, saying he was the smartest Xs and Os prospect he had ever put on the whiteboard. But yea, you probably know more than those guys.
Well damn
Posted on 3/19/22 at 1:13 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
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Yes ignore the wonderlic and the fact that scouts themselves compared his football iq to Peyton Manning. Then you have Steve Mariucci, who coached Steve Young, saying he was the smartest Xs and Os prospect he had ever put on the whiteboard. But yea, you probably know more than those guys.
Cool, well it's been proven he's neither of those things. Listen to him talk vs someone like Cam. Football IQ comparable to Payton Manning gtfo here
Posted on 3/19/22 at 1:30 pm to htran90
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And you're okay with the 22 allegations?
I said in the thread I made weeks ago that we should trade for him to buy low now, (which I was right) I thought most of it was bs. I think only two girls showed up to testify. And grand jury dismissed.
The owners next door neighbor and friend was pushing to get all this out once he requested the trade. Reeks of a bs money grab and was pushed to embarrass him.
I’m sure he did ask for some ‘extra’ during these massage sessions. But seemed to me Winston’s two incidents were for more serious.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 1:59 pm to Hailstate15
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Hailstate15
Is your incessant stanning for Jameis a bit or something? Christ chill. He’s slightly below average. All there is to it
Posted on 3/19/22 at 2:30 pm to msstate7
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Not so sure Winston is plan b. I still think we could be making a play for jimmy g or mayfield. I'd be fine with any of the 3 if the cost isn't crazy
Why would we spend draft capital or quality players to get a QB that is not any better (and probably worse, in reality) than the one we can get just by offering a contract?
Posted on 3/19/22 at 2:57 pm to Delusional
He uses perfect grammar and clearly communicates his points very well. How you feel about the point he's making is a preference. It has nothing to do with his intelligence.
Peyton first 6 seasons as a starter playing with the same coaching staff and multiple hall of famers:
3383 attempts
63%
24885 yds
167 tds
110 ints
7.35 yds/att
255 yds/gm
1.74 td/gm
1.15 int/gm
88.16 rating
Jameis first 6 seasons as a starter with 4 head coaches and 4 offensive coordinators while playing 5 of those years for the worst organization in NFL history up to that point:
2720 attempts
61%
20982
135 tds
91 ints
7.7 yds/att
253 yds/gm
1.63 td/gm
1.10 int/gm
87.8 rating
Am I saying he's Peyton Manning? Not at all. What I'm saying is your criticism of him is obviously motivated by something other than his performance on the field or his demeanor. Did you know Peyton put his nuts on a female staff members face while at UT then lied about it and tried to drag a teammate into his lie with him? You guys make it way too easy to spot your prejudice
Peyton first 6 seasons as a starter playing with the same coaching staff and multiple hall of famers:
3383 attempts
63%
24885 yds
167 tds
110 ints
7.35 yds/att
255 yds/gm
1.74 td/gm
1.15 int/gm
88.16 rating
Jameis first 6 seasons as a starter with 4 head coaches and 4 offensive coordinators while playing 5 of those years for the worst organization in NFL history up to that point:
2720 attempts
61%
20982
135 tds
91 ints
7.7 yds/att
253 yds/gm
1.63 td/gm
1.10 int/gm
87.8 rating
Am I saying he's Peyton Manning? Not at all. What I'm saying is your criticism of him is obviously motivated by something other than his performance on the field or his demeanor. Did you know Peyton put his nuts on a female staff members face while at UT then lied about it and tried to drag a teammate into his lie with him? You guys make it way too easy to spot your prejudice
Posted on 3/19/22 at 3:04 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
Yup.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 3:11 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
Comparing his football IQ or performance to Peyton Manning is retarded. Period. No amount of cherrypicked stats is going to change that.
I didn't have any criticisms of him. I said he's a pretty good football player. I don't believe he's very intelligent is all. Clearly that bothered you.
I didn't have any criticisms of him. I said he's a pretty good football player. I don't believe he's very intelligent is all. Clearly that bothered you.
Posted on 3/19/22 at 3:12 pm to Hailstate15
Did you love him as a Buc? Did you love him when he came on the field and shoved Lattimore? Bucs cut him loose for a reason.
Arians has coached Brady, Luck, P Manning, Palmer and Big Ben. He knows a winner/leader when he sees one. He didnt see it in Jameis.
Arians has coached Brady, Luck, P Manning, Palmer and Big Ben. He knows a winner/leader when he sees one. He didnt see it in Jameis.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 3:28 pm to Hailstate15
I would like to see him get more accurate within 10 yards of the LOS, he’s pretty solid on those medium-deep routes. Otherwise I think with the right pieces he can absolutely win. He’s a smart guy, he just has to be consistently smart but I think he’s done a better job maturing on/off field in NO.
He had the receivers in Tampa to be productive, but the coaching/OL/running game could never help him be efficient as he was early in his FSU career imo. In NO he had no receivers to be productive and largely was efficient behind a shaky at best line while he was in.
He’s a guy who could be a franchise guy if everything clicks whether him or around him I think so I’ll take that risk for at least a season then reevaluate. Hoard of picks will be in the table again for trade/draft.
I can see an argument for Jimmy G, but hard pass for the idea of trading for Baker over Jameis
He had the receivers in Tampa to be productive, but the coaching/OL/running game could never help him be efficient as he was early in his FSU career imo. In NO he had no receivers to be productive and largely was efficient behind a shaky at best line while he was in.
He’s a guy who could be a franchise guy if everything clicks whether him or around him I think so I’ll take that risk for at least a season then reevaluate. Hoard of picks will be in the table again for trade/draft.
I can see an argument for Jimmy G, but hard pass for the idea of trading for Baker over Jameis
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 3/19/22 at 3:58 pm to Delusional
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I don't believe he's very intelligent is all. Clearly that bothered you.
Because your opinion isn't based on anything more than "he seems unintelligent", when there's no objective evidence that he's dumb. His wonderlic score suggests he's at least average intelligence.
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