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re: We Own This City coming to HBO in April

Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Hollywood just can't help themselves..


I mean let be honest. Very few people thought Trump would win the presidency let alone the republican nomination
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12270 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:30 pm to
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Simon will somehow blame all of Baltimore's crime on the police.




I got that feeling as well
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11367 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 5:43 pm to
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If anyone can answer this for me, the dudes that robbed Anderson were cops, right?


yes, Gondo and his crew did the robbery.

Lived in Baltimore during this time, CRAZY shite. Anyone interested should read the book with the same title by Justin Fenton.

Wayne Jenkins is insane
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29341 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Simon will somehow blame all of Baltimore's crime on the police.


Given his work with The Wire, that would be a shift in views.
Posted by shinerfan
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22710 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 10:08 pm to
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Simon will somehow blame all of Baltimore's crime on the police.





The Wire painted a pretty damning picture of the corrupt Democrat machine in the Baltimore City Hall and State Assembly.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29341 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:44 am to
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The Wire painted a pretty damning picture of the corrupt Democrat machine in the Baltimore City Hall and State Assembly.


Clay Davis is tGOAT fictional scumbag politician

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99906 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:26 am to
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The Wire painted a pretty damning picture of the corrupt Democrat machine in the Baltimore City Hall and State Assembly.


Yep.

When I took CJ classes in undergrad, one of them required watching Simon’s “The House I Live In” documentary for the course. He pulls no punches on highlighting the role of politicians (both parties) in the systematic issues we’re seeing today, particularly when it comes to the war on drugs.

For him corruption in law enforcement is an unintended consequence of the war on drugs as a whole.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51174 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:32 pm to
Turning this on now
Posted by jts1207
Member since Apr 2018
928 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:26 pm to
10 minutes in and I’ve heard Freddie gray 15 times…..hope this isn’t anti police blacks are always victims bs
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:40 pm to
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10 minutes in and I’ve heard Freddie gray 15 times…..hope this isn’t anti police blacks are always victims bs


Then I suggest you stop watching.. NOW..
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:11 pm to
First episode was pretty good. Looking forward to the rest.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29341 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 7:39 am to
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10 minutes in and I’ve heard Freddie gray 15 times…..hope this isn’t anti police blacks are always victims bs



This is set in 2016-17 right after the Gray incident.
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
922 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 7:52 am to
Do we know why they got Wayne at the end?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 8:12 am to
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Do we know why they got Wayne at the end?

I'm assuming because some of his crew is robbing drug dealers... they probably think he's the ring leader? frick I don't know. I didn't follow it well with the time jump. Not sure if scenes where 2017 or 2015.. I'm no help.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6475 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 8:20 am to
Here's a little history on Wayne Jenkins and his crew.. I didn't remember any of this:

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The actions of former Baltimore police Sergeant Wayne Jenkins and his team of plain-clothed officers in the Gun Trace Task Force (GTTF) are explored in We Own This City.

HBO's new true-crime drama stars Jon Bernthal as Jenkins, with the show examining Jenkins' rise in the city's police department and eventual arrest after a two-year federal investigation into the GTTF.

Here is everything you need to know about the real Jenkins and where he is now.

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Jenkins joined Baltimore's police department in 2003, first becoming a beat cop and patrolling the streets of Baltimore.

During his time on the streets of Baltimore Jenkins was involved in several arrests that resulted in the injuries of the people he took into custody.


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In Justin Fenton's book We Own This City, on which the HBO series is based, the Baltimore Sun journalist explained that Jenkins would often be "caught in a lie" while giving evidence to a jury, but no complaints were put on his record.


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For example, in January 2006, Jenkins and Sergeant Michael Fries had an altercation with brothers Charles and Robert Lee after they continued to drink beer on the front step of their grandmother's home when the policemen had told them to stop.

During the altercation, a passerby named George Sneed was assaulted by officer Robert Cirello who broke his jaw, leading Sneed to sue.

At the trial four years later, Jenkins and his fellow officers claimed that the witness had been throwing bottles at them, but security camera footage shown at the trial proved what Jenkins claimed was not true.

Sneed's attorney Michael Pulver concluded, per Fenton, that the officers had "fabricated this story to hide the fact that they intentionally assaulted and falsely arrested and imprisoned Mr. Sneed."


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Despite this happening more than once, Jenkins remained in his superiors' good books and when Fries was promoted in 2007 he decided to also give Jenkins a boost because he was "the best officer [he] had working under [his] command."


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It was in 2007 that Jenkins became a part of the GTTF, a new unit of plain-clothed officers focused on targeting suspected criminals believed to have big supplies of guns and drugs, in a bid to reduce the city's high murder rate.

However, the focus on quantity rather than quality led Jenkins and the seven other GTTF officers to start planting evidence, take money from the homes they invaded, and even resell the drugs they seized back onto the streets.

A two-year federal investigation into the GTTF resulted in all eight officers, and one Philadelphia officer, getting charged with several offenses, including racketeering, in 2017.

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In February 2017, Jenkins was charged with two counts of racketeering conspiracy; racketeering, aiding and abetting; racketeering; two counts of robbery and aiding and abetting; and two counts of possession of a firearm in furtherance of a crime of violence.

Then, in November 2017, he was given further charges of destruction, alteration or falsification of records in federal investigations, and deprivation of rights under color of law.

When his case went to trial on January 5, 2018 Jenkins pled guilty to one count of racketeering, two counts of robbery, one count of destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in a federal investigation, and four counts of deprivation of rights under color of law.

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Jenkins was given a 25-year prison sentence on June 7, 2018, which he is currently in the midst of serving at a federal prison in Kentucky.

In September 2021, Jenkins spoke with BBC journalist Jessica Lussenhop from behind bars, and he claimed he never took money from Baltimore citizens.

Jenkins said: "I never had [theft complaints] because I never took money off individuals. I did give drugs to Donny [Stepp, who testified he and Jenkins sold $1 million worth of narcotics] for the last couple of years I was police, but I didn't take people's money because then they would know you were dirty."

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Explaining the tactics of the GTTF, he also told the publication: "This is a saying we state: 'Don't let probable cause stand in the way of a good arrest.'

"If you've got to lie about what you've seen or what you heard or what you witnessed, as long as he's dirty, he's got the drugs and he's got the guns and he did the crime—just get him."

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26164 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 8:21 am to
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This is set in 2016-17 right after the Gray incident.


A 16/17 story about Bodymore city cops and the surrounding counties that didn't discuss Gray often would be seriously suspect. It was surely front and center in their minds. The bad cop trope has been around forever because bad cops do indeed exist.

I wonder if it will play to the multiple lens approach like the Wire. The genius of the Wire was telling the story from multiple angles. You understood the motivation of the characters and why the good ones did bad and the bad ones did good. As much as I loved Omar he was a POS human being. I understood why Carver was jumping up and down on the car going all Traning Day.

I like Own so far but I do hope we see more of the characters motivation and see the good and bad in each.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99906 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:18 am to
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I wonder if it will play to the multiple lens approach like the Wire. The genius of the Wire was telling the story from multiple angles. You understood the motivation of the characters and why the good ones did bad and the bad ones did good. As much as I loved Omar he was a POS human being. I understood why Carver was jumping up and down on the car going all Traning Day.


I love the way Simon swims in the gray areas. Nothing is every starkly black and white in life.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46727 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 2:23 pm to
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There was a scene where they said “You better hope Hillary wins. If Trump wins this is where good lawyers come to die. There is no way Trump wins, let alone gets a nomination.” That’s all I’ll say, but I got a chuckle out of it.


Pretty accurate sentiment for the time period, I thought
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51174 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:10 am to
Loved the first episode. Cool to see Tray Chaney. Wife thought I was nuts when I yelled out POOT
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79525 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:13 am to
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I love the way Simon swims in the gray areas. Nothing is every starkly black and white in life.



The Force by Don Winslow is similar (and he's an absolute political lunatic).

I'm all about more books/movies that tell the story of

a) the overwhelming and impenetrable criminality and evil of American urban crime and how the black community/corrupt city governments foster it;
b) the bad elements of the police force and how it's counterproductive to policing;and
c) how a) can fatigue decent cops and drive them to illegality and sometimes create more bad cops
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