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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:31 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:31 am to
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Russia has had 50,000 men killed. Ukraine had had 500,000 men killed(more than the US had in all of WWII).



Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:43 am to
You laugh, but the biggest Russian bot says it’s so.
And I checked with the other bot and he didn’t dispute it.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9884 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

I wonder what the relative strengths of Ukraine and Russia are in this conflict. Just how strong militarily is a country like Ukraine backed by essentially the entire west?


Kinda sorta backed by the entire West. Everything being approved now could have been approved in the Spring of 2022 and much much more. Biden has the authority to write down old retired equipment to $0 value which is much more realistic than book values which have been assigned. Ammo at expiration date would have $0 value, such as all of the cluster munitions which we could have sent and scheduled to be destroyed which does cost real money, not accounting procedure money.

Meanwhile South Korea and Japan are considered part of the West, but not actually contributing. So the entire West is a false claim
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20058 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Kinda sorta backed by the entire West. Everything being approved now could have been approved in the Spring of 2022 and much much more. Biden has the authority to write down old retired equipment to $0 value which is much more realistic than book values which have been assigned. Ammo at expiration date would have $0 value, such as all of the cluster munitions which we could have sent and scheduled to be destroyed which does cost real money, not accounting procedure money.


Good ideas, but I don't expect competent problem solving out of the Resident in the White House or the Marxist hens that pull his strings.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20058 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:12 am to
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OHH nooooo you just posted a very old video... while it was shot in Ukraine it was in the Russian-occupied area.


Some people just don't do their homework or attempt to verify if it is real or not.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20058 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:23 am to
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Russia has had 50,000 men killed. Ukraine had had 500,000 men killed(more than the US had in all of WWII).




So says the Russian bot farm. Really need a sarcasm emoticon here.

You'd think that they would be smart enough not to be ridiculous.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:47 am to
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You laugh, but the biggest Russian bot says it’s so.
And I checked with the other bot and he didn’t dispute it.


If this is directed at me, I have no idea what the actual casualty numbers are and never claimed to know.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:49 am to
Posted by CaneyLake
Member since Jun 2023
177 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:00 am to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2700 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:04 am to
Russia ramps up military draft in Ukrainian occupied territories
April 25, 2024, 08:32 AM

Russia has begun its spring conscription campaign, forcibly enlisting Ukrainians from the temporarily occupied territories of Zaporizhzhya Oblast, Zaporizhzhya Oblast governor, Ivan Fedorov, reported on Telegram on April 25.

This move follows a decree from Russian President Vladimir Putin mandating the conscription of youth within Russia, with the occupied Ukrainian territories receiving no exemption.

Yevhen Balytskyi, the Moscow-appointed 'leader' of Zaporizhzhya Oblast, initiated the creation of "enlistment offices" in mid-April to facilitate this process. "Involving residents from occupied territories for service in the occupying country's army is a violation of international law," stated Fedorov, highlighting the legal breaches involved.

Russian authorities previously claimed they would not conscript draftees from the occupied territories for at least five years.

The New Voice of Ukraine
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:13 am to
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Russia has begun its spring conscription campaign, forcibly enlisting Ukrainians from the temporarily occupied territories of Zaporizhzhya Oblast, Zaporizhzhya Oblast governor, Ivan Fedorov, reported on Telegram on April 25.


Why?

Ukraine has lost 450,000 more soldiers than Russia has; however, Russia has to forcibly take Ukrainians to reinforce their armies.

Besides, I thought all these captive Oblasts wanted to be Russian. What gives? Russia should have thousands of soldiers to quickly overrun the remaining Ukes.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:42 am to
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Why?

Ukraine has list 450,000 more soldiers than Russia has; however, Russia has to forcibly take Ukrainians to reinforce their armies.

Besides, I thought all these captive Oblasts wanted to be Russian. What gives? Russia should have thousands of soldiers to quickly overrun the remaining Ukes.


You're this upset at obviously fake numbers from supposed bots?

Those numbers are as obviously fake as the ones Ukraine puts out. We won't have a good idea until this is over and even then the numbers will likely be at least somewhat inaccurate.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
535 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:01 pm to
Conscripting soldiers from an area you just occupied, seems like a really bad idea.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19586 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

UK intelligence suggested on March 30 that Russia is conscripting about 30,000 new servicemen each month for the war against Ukraine.



These are volunteers.

Scanning that article, it looks like Russia is applying the universal military obligation to the new regions. These conscripted soldiers are not used in the war however.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19586 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:46 pm to
We ignored and downplayed the importance of electronic warfare for decades.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8126 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Scanning that article, it looks like Russia is applying the universal military obligation to the new regions. These conscripted soldiers are not used in the war however.

Ah, good to know. We can trust Russia's honesty on all matters military.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18158 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

South Korea and Japan are considered part of the West, but not actually contributing.


Not true. They are both contributing, and Japan is contributing a lot, but most of it isn't lethal aid. South Korea is contributing on the down low and the major partner of the Czech artillery initiative.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18158 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 3:58 pm to
This turned out to be one of the most overhyped weapons of the war. If Ukraine had received it six months earlier, it might have been a lot more effective.

LINK

quote:

Speaking @CSIS, Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment LaPlante indicates the Boeing-Saab produced Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb has proven largely ineffective in Ukraine.

He cites numerous issues including ineffective TTPs and Russian GPS denial.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 4:24 pm to
Big Serge should change his name to Big Cope.

quote:

ColtRange


Glad to see that you are on duty comrade. It is now early Friday morning in Ukraine which is when Russia likes to launch their attacks. Will this morning be a big bang or a big fizzle? Will you be on watch all night?
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