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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:22 pm to ColtRange
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One, we care more than you do. This is more important to us than it will ever be to the United States of America.
What you don't understand -- because you're clearly a paid shill for Russia -- is that when they say "we", they mean the Kremlin politicians -- Putin's inner circle.
The average Russian doesn't even have a toilet. He cares about scrounging enough to eat. He doesn't give a frick about Ukraine one way or the other.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:25 pm to Lee B
Trump's blessing was on voting yes for aid or else it would not have passed.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:50 pm to CitizenK
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Trump's blessing was on voting yes for aid or else it would not have passed.
Has he publically said that?
Because...
"I think we’ve turned the corner on the isolationist movement," McConnell told a news conference.
LINK
That won't make some of his voters happy.
so I suspect he will take credit for it when he thinks it benefits him, and say it was a "lousy deal" that he had nothing to do with when he feels that benefits him...
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:36 pm to Lee B
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Has he publically said that?
Don Jr is not the one running the Trump organization, Eric is. Steve Bannon was trashed like dog when Trump fired him, and is now doing the bidding of his funder, a Chinese billionaire.
Trump has actually campaigned much different behind the scenes this go around. He had no such strategy in the past. He always leaves an out for himself. Politards are so clueless they never notice such things. That was easy to see in 2016 and since once you actually pay attention and not the news media reports
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:15 am to CitizenK
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:36 am to NPComb
OHH nooooo you just posted a very old video... while it was shot in Ukraine it was in the Russian-occupied area.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 12:39 am to NPComb
video from last year... of a depot in Russian-occupied territory...
Posted on 4/25/24 at 4:12 am to Lee B
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 25 April 2024
It was reported on 23 April that the Russian Investigation Committee had detained Deputy Defence Minister Timur Ivanov for two months. He is charged with committing a crime under Part 6 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, namely receiving a large bribe. Some offences under Art 290 are punishable by up to 15 years in prison. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Putin has been informed of the arrest. Ivanov denies any wrongdoing.
Defence Minister Sergey Shoygu has also been informed. Ivanov was a Deputy Prime Minister in the Moscow Regional Government in 2012, when Shoygu was Governor of Moscow Region. It is therefore likely that he has long-standing ties with Shoygu.
Ivanov was appointed a Deputy Defence Minister in 2016, and is reported to have played an important role in reconstruction projects in Mariupol. In his income declaration for 2018 it is allegedly indicated that Ivanov owned 22 cars. Reports of Ivanov's reported luxurious lifestyle sit awkwardly with Putin's call in February in his state of the nation address for a new national elite comprised of the heroes of the special military operation. The Ivanov affair is the most serious scandal to hit the MOD since then Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov was dismissed in November 2012.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 25 April 2024
It was reported on 23 April that the Russian Investigation Committee had detained Deputy Defence Minister Timur Ivanov for two months. He is charged with committing a crime under Part 6 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, namely receiving a large bribe. Some offences under Art 290 are punishable by up to 15 years in prison. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Putin has been informed of the arrest. Ivanov denies any wrongdoing.
Defence Minister Sergey Shoygu has also been informed. Ivanov was a Deputy Prime Minister in the Moscow Regional Government in 2012, when Shoygu was Governor of Moscow Region. It is therefore likely that he has long-standing ties with Shoygu.
Ivanov was appointed a Deputy Defence Minister in 2016, and is reported to have played an important role in reconstruction projects in Mariupol. In his income declaration for 2018 it is allegedly indicated that Ivanov owned 22 cars. Reports of Ivanov's reported luxurious lifestyle sit awkwardly with Putin's call in February in his state of the nation address for a new national elite comprised of the heroes of the special military operation. The Ivanov affair is the most serious scandal to hit the MOD since then Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov was dismissed in November 2012.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 6:35 am to ticklechain
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What are the Russians stand off options?
They're using up all of their glide bombs now because in a few months with the threat of F-16 that won't be an option.
That gets them basically down to cruise missiles and short range ballistic missiles. But there are two problems with these. One is that they can't make them fast enough to fit their "plow the earth" doctrine. And two is that Patriot and other air defense can shoot them down.
They're gonna be back go good ole fashioned tube artillery. And that presents its own myriad of problems.
Ukes have way better counter battery radar than Russia. So although they're outgunned, and Russia can fire many more shells, Ukraine's return fire is many times more effective.
Russian doctrine is to blanket a huge area with thousands of shells. But once a tube has fired for a while, the Ukes eventually figure out where it is. And they can fire back with cluster munitions. Which are extremely effective at taking out artillery positions and crews.
So Russia eventually comes to a choke point on physical tubes (which it can't make domestically despite what the bots say) and trained crews that take a while to train up and develop to become skilled and effective.
The Poliboard narrative is "Johnson flipped because they obviously have video of him diddling kids. What a disgusting scumbag."
What's more likely: Johnson got a series of briefings that convinced him of just how fragile the Russian hold on the battlefield really is.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 6:46 am to NPComb
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:14 am to No Colors
I was referring to their air to air capabilities for when they have to deal with the f16s. But thanks for the reply.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 7:16 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:20 am to ticklechain
NYT: US secretly sent Ukraine over 100 ATACMS last week
by Chris York and The Kyiv Independent news desk April 25, 2024 11:27 AM
The U.S. secretly shipped over 100 long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine last week, some of which were immediately deployed and used to strike a Russian military airfield in Dzhankoi in occupied Crimea, the New York Times (NYT) reported on April 25.
Washington announced an aid package worth $300 million to Kyiv on March 12 while Congress debated further aid to Ukraine.
In February, U.S. President Joe Biden instructed his team to include the long-range ATACMS in the package, doing it in secrecy for security reasons and "to maintain the element of surprise for Ukraine," Reuters reported on April 24, citing an unnamed U.S. official.
The NYT, quoting another unnamed U.S. official, said it was these missiles that struck the airfield in Dzhankoi on April 17.
Ukraine's military intelligence on April 18 said that Ukrainian forces had destroyed four S-400 launchers, three radar stations, a command post for air defense operations, and air space surveillance equipment Fundament-M in the attack.
by Chris York and The Kyiv Independent news desk April 25, 2024 11:27 AM
The U.S. secretly shipped over 100 long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine last week, some of which were immediately deployed and used to strike a Russian military airfield in Dzhankoi in occupied Crimea, the New York Times (NYT) reported on April 25.
Washington announced an aid package worth $300 million to Kyiv on March 12 while Congress debated further aid to Ukraine.
In February, U.S. President Joe Biden instructed his team to include the long-range ATACMS in the package, doing it in secrecy for security reasons and "to maintain the element of surprise for Ukraine," Reuters reported on April 24, citing an unnamed U.S. official.
The NYT, quoting another unnamed U.S. official, said it was these missiles that struck the airfield in Dzhankoi on April 17.
Ukraine's military intelligence on April 18 said that Ukrainian forces had destroyed four S-400 launchers, three radar stations, a command post for air defense operations, and air space surveillance equipment Fundament-M in the attack.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:26 am to No Colors
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What's more likely: Johnson got a series of briefings that convinced him of just how fragile the Russian hold on the battlefield really is.
We really got them this time!1!1!!1!!!!!!!!!!!11!!! Trust me!!!!!!!!!!!
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trained crews that take a while to train up and develop to become skilled and effective.
Not that Russia doesn't have personnel issues, but its pretty comical to say stuff like this then ignore or pretend Ukraine isn't facing the same concerns, likely at a greater level
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Ukes have way better counter battery radar than Russia. So although they're outgunned, and Russia can fire many more shells, Ukraine's return fire is many times more effective.
Russian doctrine is to blanket a huge area with thousands of shells. But once a tube has fired for a while, the Ukes eventually figure out where it is. And they can fire back with cluster munitions. Which are extremely effective at taking out artillery positions and crews.
One would think they would shift their strategy at that point, both to counter the scenario you're describing and because other options they have been using will be nullified completely or at the very least less effective.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:32 am to NPComb
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Ohh noooooo
You just got punked.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 7:35 am to cypher
I wonder what the relative strengths of Ukraine and Russia are in this conflict. Just how strong militarily is a country like Ukraine backed by essentially the entire west?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:12 am to VolSquatch
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I wonder what the relative strengths of Ukraine and Russia are in this conflict. J
Russia has had 50,000 men killed. Ukraine had had 500,000 men killed(more than the US had in all of WWII).
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:21 am to VolSquatch
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I wonder what the relative strengths of Ukraine and Russia are in this conflict. Just how strong militarily is a country like Ukraine backed by essentially the entire west?
How did Russia fare in the opening salvo before the West started the military aid?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:28 am to Lee B
In their High Risk, High Reward manuever with a high failure rate? Not too well
Posted on 4/25/24 at 8:31 am to doubleb
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Russia has had 50,000 men killed. Ukraine had had 500,000 men killed(more than the US had in all of WWII).
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