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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:56 am to
Posted by ticklechain
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:56 am to
Epstein didn't kill himself
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11159 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 6:57 am to
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Why are so many blind or naive?

Ask
You’ve got a thread full of them.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 7:49 am to
Ukrainian Air Force destroys two enemy Su-34s, one Su-35

17.02.2024 14:11

Ukrainian Air Force units destroyed two Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers and one Su-35 fighter on the eastern front early on February 17.

Ukrainian Air Force Commander Mykola Oleshchuk announced this on Telegram, Ukrinform reports.

"Nothing will stop us! Thank you, warriors!" the commander said.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:01 am to
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And our media wants you to hate Putin...rather than worry about what's going inside America.

Why are so many blind or naive?

America has dropped the most bombs in history by a large margin...while playing the role of "peace keepers" or "protecting Democracy"

Our empire isn't what we like to think of ourselves...


Those of us who have actually paid attention (even to nutter media) have known about Putin for 2 decades.

The low prices paid for goods and services since WWII are the result of "protecting Democracy" It's actually made the whole world more safe with less war since WWII.

What empire? Do you count USMC embassy guards as military bases with the US ruling almost every nation in the world like the rest of the Paultards?

Apex my assssss.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:03 am to
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Ukrainian Air Force destroys two enemy Su-34s, one Su-35

17.02.2024 14:11

Ukrainian Air Force units destroyed two Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers and one Su-35 fighter on the eastern front early on February 17.

Ukrainian Air Force Commander Mykola Oleshchuk announced this on Telegram, Ukrinform reports.


I've seen the visual evidence of the Su-35. No proof shown yet for the two Su-34s.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:05 am to
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Ukrainian troops have withdrawn from the frontline city of Avdiivka to avoid being encircled, new military chief Oleksandr Syrsky said Saturday, handing Russia its biggest symbolic victory following Kyiv's failed summer counter-offensive.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 8:08 am to
Age 30s - voting history

1. Voted Obama against McCain
2. Romney against Obama
3. Trump against Hillary
4. Trump against Biden

What do you mean by “russian collusion”? Like how Trump was accused of it? I think Russian intelligence has infiltrated many aspects of our government/media and they influence on either side given whatever sows the most chaos and division.

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And the 51 intel agents who signed an affidavit stating the Hunter laptop was Russia propaganda...knowing what we know now, do you think they signed to help defeat Trump or they were truly clueless?
I don’t know, but I do know a FBI informant was just arrested in Vegas for feeding false information to the FBI that made Biden look bad.

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This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 8:09 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:47 am to
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I'm not going to do all of this, because this thread is off-topic enough as it is. But I am curious to know about what about the COVID origin question is supposed to be a conspiracy, since our own government says we don't know. Different government agencies have come to different conclusions about whether the virus is of natural origin or was genetically engineered, and they also have found different conclusions about whether the virus was first transmitted to humans through the animal market or through a lab leak.


Way off topic, but Wuhan Lab's own scientific publications were very proud of discovering "a new a terrible coronavirus" that infected humans. Too many of our mediots and bureaucrats were too dumb to have it looked up...

This guy is fluent in Mandarin and the answer was all proudly published on the world wide web.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU

Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 9:49 am to
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Ukrainian troops have withdrawn from the frontline city of Avdiivka to avoid being encircled, new military chief Oleksandr Syrsky said Saturday, handing Russia its biggest symbolic victory following Kyiv's failed summer counter-offensive.



Russia paid one hellofva price for that symbolic victory.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:04 am to
"President Trump! Sorry that I completely hung you out to dry after you gave us tank busting missiles! It really was a perfect phone call, but I just wasn't able to defend you, not even once. Say, friend... why don't you come visit me? We will take a trip to the front lines! It will be fun and I promise you that nothing bad will happen!"

Your friend,

Volodymyr Zelenskyyyyy

quote:

Bloomberg) -- Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy invited Donald Trump to travel with him to the frontlines of Russia’s full-scale invasion of his country so that the former US leader can experience “real war.”

Speaking at the Munich Security Conference Saturday, where he’s on his latest trip to shore up support among allies, Zelenskiy drew applause from delegates with his invitation to Trump, who has called into question the US commitment to transatlantic security during his campaign for reelection.


This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:07 am to
You get it.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83150 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:10 am to
You take 3 paragraphs to not answer a single question.
This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 10:35 am to
Man, I’m not sure what your point is. Our country promised to aid Ukraine and Congress has really made a game of disregarding these people’s lives. If Trump is really going to end this war if he gets elected, maybe he could at least make sure they can negotiate from a standpoint that’s not complete capitulation.

I know it’s crazy to people around here, but countries are able to solve domestic and foreign issues at the same time. It’s not an either or thing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74991 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:36 am to
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Russia paid one hellofva price for that symbolic victory.


What price did they pay? Is this good news for Ukraine or is Russia walking into another meat grinder?
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
36533 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:45 am to
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What price did they pay? Is this good news for Ukraine or is Russia walking into another meat grinder?


Good news for Russia, but they paid a price.
Time will tell if it was worth it.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2691 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:49 am to
Czech President says Czechia found way to get 800,000 shells for Ukraine
EUROPEAN PRAVDA, UKRAINSKA PRAVDA — SATURDAY, 17 FEBRUARY 2024, 16:20

Czechia has found a way to acquire 800,000 shells for Ukraine but it needs funding to do so, Czech President Petr Pavel has said.

Source: Pavel in Munich at the Ukrainian Lunch organised by the Pinchuk Foundation, as reported by a European Pravda correspondent

Details: Pavel spoke at a panel discussion with the leaders of 5 EU member states and commented on the challenges of supplying weapons and ammunition to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. He said Prague had found a way to arrange such supplies.

"We need to support Ukraine by supplying ammunition from all possible sources. We need to be as innovative and flexible as Ukrainian soldiers and look for military equipment everywhere," he explained.

Pavel noted that Czechia "looks for military supplies around the world and then works with our NATO partners" and specifically mentioned Denmark, the Netherlands, and Canada, which have provided resources to bring military equipment to Czechia. "And then we promptly transport it to Ukraine," he explained.

Pavel added that Czechia had been successful in searching for it.

Quote: "So far, we have found half a million 155mm shells and 300,000 122mm shells, which we can ship [to Ukraine] in a few weeks provided we have the funding. We will address our partners in the United States, Germany, Sweden, etc., for such assistance," he said.

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This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19561 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Russia paid one hellofva price for that symbolic victory.


The Russians are fighting this the thriftiest way possible. They’re using a lot of artillery and airstrikes, and the Ukrainians have no air support, and minimal artillery. Urban combat aside, the Russians aren’t going to take heavy casualties this way.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10650 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Russians aren’t going to take heavy casualties this way.


I've read some delusional shite from troll farm bots spewing the party line... but this.....this is in a league of its own.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30525 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:28 pm to
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why America needs to spend one single dime on a regional conflict that doesn't affect us one iota. Western Europe has the finances and resources to handle it themselves. Why we spend our capital to do something they refuse to do for themselves is beyond me.

Of course, the do-gooders on here go into paroxysms of grief or anger if you even suggest that we no longer have any business participating in NATO, either.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10650 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:31 pm to
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doesn't affect us one iota.


If you don't understand that this conflict affects us, I don't know what to tell you
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