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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:16 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:16 pm to Chromdome35
This probably isn’t over
Someone is going to get pissed off again
Someone is going to get pissed off again
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:18 pm to No Colors
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All of the Wagner PMC Group Telegrams seem to be very Unhappy with this Decision by Prigozhin with some stating they will be Breaking their Contract with the Group.
Prigozhin might have f**ked up. If he loses his best fighters then Wagner is finished. Once Wagner is finished then there is nothing to stop him from falling from a window. If Prigozhin goes onto to be Minister of Defense but Wagner looses its best troops then he is stuck in the same position as Shoigu was in which is not a good one. Either way it is a win for Ukraine.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:18 pm to StormyMcMan
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Turkey a few years back was anticlimactic as well
Bc it was staged for a power grab
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:18 pm to Chromdome35
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Prigozhin dishonored not only himself, but everyone who believed in him. I still hold on only because I survived the murder of two brigade commanders and the shame and betrayal of the Minsks. And here comes another blow. I will become even more cynical and perhaps never again believe in anything.
You have respect such dedication to a likely suicide mission.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:19 pm to mmcgrath
Its a total win for Prig and Ukraine. To put it in PT board terms...Putin got cucked by Prig.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:19 pm to Chromdome35
I wonder if Shoigu tried to have Prig killed and failed which kicked all this off. Would explain why they did all this then.
March on Moscow and get agreeable terms. Prig gets to take his group out of russia and probably remove his death warrant. The guys who did it resign and are replaced.
Who really knows at this point lol.
March on Moscow and get agreeable terms. Prig gets to take his group out of russia and probably remove his death warrant. The guys who did it resign and are replaced.
Who really knows at this point lol.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:20 pm to TigerinOkieHell
Well this was anti-climactic. Boooooo!!!!
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:21 pm to mmcgrath
Videos at link
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672670815551201287
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672670815551201287
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Wagner PMC fighters have started to leave Rostov
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:21 pm to Chromdome35
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Its a total win for Prig and Ukraine. To put it in PT board terms...Putin got cucked by Prig.
I think it’s way too early to make that statement. What happens if his own troops have now lost faith in his decision making and don’t follow him moving forward?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:21 pm to StraightCashHomey21
If Tom Clancy were still alive, his keyboard would be in overdrive with three scripts going at the same time.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:23 pm to TigerinOkieHell
Prig is a dead man walking.
Putin made the deal he had to make at the moment to avoid total disaster. He sacrifices a couple of generals, gets Wagner back in the cage. He can take out Prig at some point in the future.
Putin made the deal he had to make at the moment to avoid total disaster. He sacrifices a couple of generals, gets Wagner back in the cage. He can take out Prig at some point in the future.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:23 pm to Chromdome35
Yeah that’s why I don’t get this, at all.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:26 pm to Chromdome35
If there was some sort of "deal", I don't think I'd completely stand down until all of the agreed upon terms were publicly met.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:27 pm to Golgi Apparatus
I think Prig lost face with his guys, but he still managed to get what he wanted out this mutiny, Amnesty for him and his troops, relo to Africa, and the removal of Shoigu. Those are all short term wins for Prig.
Long term, its not nearly as clear
Long term, its not nearly as clear
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:28 pm to Chromdome35
I think it’s telling Wagner wanted out of Ukraine.
He wants to fight African warlords, not NATO equipment
He wants to fight African warlords, not NATO equipment
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:28 pm to Traveler
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If Tom Clancy were still alive, his keyboard would be in overdrive.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:28 pm to Chromdome35
quote:i think a more drawn out conflict between prig and Putin would have been more impactful for Ukraine. As for prig, I guess maybe he’s been paid off and given more power, but you wonder if Putin ensures it’s a short term win only.
Its a total win for Prig and Ukraine.
Probably gets poisoned in Africa within a few months
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
Yea unless this was all planned internally (why the frick would it be???) then you have to think Prig is all but dead. He very publicly had Putin and the rest of the high command shitting bricks and supposedly fleeing the capital.
On what planet is a Russian "guarantee of PMC security" worth anything?
Also what happens to all the citizens in Rostov and elsewhere on video "welcoming" Wagner?
On what planet is a Russian "guarantee of PMC security" worth anything?
Also what happens to all the citizens in Rostov and elsewhere on video "welcoming" Wagner?
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:30 pm to WDE24
Yea, it certainly would have been better for Ukraine if the coup would have gone farther and eaten more Russian troops and equipment; however, it was still a damn good 24 hours for Ukraine any way you look at it.
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:32 pm to Chromdome35
Girkin telgram post
https://t.me/strelkovii/5699
https://t.me/strelkovii/5699
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I am forced to admit with bitterness that the Russian Federation has come one step closer to its final and irrevocable death.
From now on, there are two presidents in the Russian Federation - the real president, Evgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin, and the vice-president for imprisonment, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. The main purpose of the zits-president is to periodically address the real president, and in a kneeling position, with the question: "What would you like, Yevgeny Viktorovich?"
Never, even in the most nightmare dream, could I imagine that I would see this shame and the death of my country.
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Even if we assume that "That's it, we're dispersing" - then it remains to state that the REVOLUTION HAPPENED SUCCESSFULLY. The second (in fact) person in the state was forcibly removed from power.
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 1:34 pm
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