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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:45 pm to 94LSU
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:45 pm to 94LSU
Now post a map where NATO has their nukes.
ETA: Just because a country is in NATO doesn’t mean it has nukes. Nukes are in Germany, but not Poland for instance. Italy has nukes, but not Hungary.
ETA: Just because a country is in NATO doesn’t mean it has nukes. Nukes are in Germany, but not Poland for instance. Italy has nukes, but not Hungary.
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:01 pm to 94LSU
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How many wars have NATO countries started on other countries' lands? Too many to count.
If you list them, I'll gladly do the counting for you
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:12 pm to 94LSU
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first-hand accounts
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One recent analysis
clownPosted on 6/20/23 at 1:44 pm to molsusports
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Scandinavian countries are afraid of additional Russian encroachment.
Eastern European countries are afraid of being subjugated by a pseudo Soviet state that doesn't respect their territorial integrity or their culture.
Because that's what Russian military interventions have forced in Georgia, Chechnya, and Ukraine. There would arguably be no need for NATO except for the steady military expansions from Russia to regain former Soviet states. None of this excuses poor decisions by the United States to adventure abroad into theaters like Iraq.
On the contrary it should have taught both the United States and Russia to avoid military conflict where possible.
Pretty tidy summary of 1000 pages or so of what abouts.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:57 pm to Chromdome35
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So you think we should invade Cuba over this?
We would. And most here would support.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:00 pm to 94LSU
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Ukraine joining NATO has been in the works since at least 2008.
But not from Ukraine. Polling indicated that even after Russia invaded in 2014, only 40% of the public supported it. They would have to vote to join
Have fun in your delusion
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:01 pm to 94LSU
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NATO's entire reason for existing dissolved when the Soviet Union did. Why is it even still a thing?
Wrong. It was also to keep the peace among member nations. Nary a conflict has broken out between any of them since NATO was formed
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We would. And most here would support.
We won't invade Cuba because we aren't Russia and there isn't oil in Cuba.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:43 pm to OleVaught14
Remember the story a month ago that the Pentagon had improperly valued the equipment from drawdowns, and that meant that there would be an additional $3 billion to give to Ukraine? Well, the bean counters have worked hard, and there's now room to give Ukraine a lot more equipment.
LINK
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BREAKING: The Pentagon provided an update on this story. The total overvaluation of equipment sent in PDA packages is $6.2 billion! They are dubiously claiming this didn't impact the size of those packages, but regardless, it still means that more equipment can be provided.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Well, the bean counters have worked hard, and there's now room to give Ukraine a lot more equipment.
If they set the value of used stuff at estate sale prices, they can free up more room.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:57 pm to CitizenK
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It was also to keep the peace among member nations. Nary a conflict has broken out between any of them since NATO was formed
That was more of a side effect of the alliance, not it’s a purpose.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
It's right up front in Article 1 of the charter.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:19 pm to 94LSU
quote:interesting that Russia has invaded a non NATO country and the NATO baltics. Hmmmm
NATO's entire reason for existing dissolved when the Soviet Union did.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:23 pm to CitizenK
Looks like it just refers to the United Nations but I’ll cède the point.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:36 pm to TacoNash
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That map shows us having a base in Hong Kong. Do we have a base in Hong Kong?
The map shows active deployments not bases. There's not much difference IMO.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:39 pm to LSUnation78
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clown
Is Ukraine still winning?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:45 pm to 94LSU
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The map shows active deployments not bases.
Oh, OK. How many US troops are deployed to Hong Kong?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:47 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Oh, OK. How many US troops are deployed to Hong Kong?
need to add China to those maplocations.... we have marines at our embassy......
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:48 pm to GOP_Tiger
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How many US troops are deployed to Hong Kong?
Just spitballing but I would imagine it’s a marine security unit for a US consulate
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Oh, OK. How many US troops are deployed to Hong Kong?
So a non-deep dive look into this question yields this.. only US troops in Hong Kong are part of the US Consulate
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