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Posted on 6/18/23 at 6:56 pm to CitizenK
The railway station in the Kherson region that got bombed is completely flattened. I’d like to know just how much ammo was in there had to be an obscene amount to destroy a couple city blocks. Slowly choke logistics lines which is Russia’s worst part of their military. They don’t even know what the word logistics means. Then at one point a big push is going to have to come somewhere.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:16 pm to LSUPilot07
Is that the one which cooked off ammo for hours?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:35 pm to LSUPilot07
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The railway station in the Kherson region that got bombed is completely flattened. I’d like to know just how much ammo was in there had to be an obscene amount to destroy a couple city blocks. Slowly choke logistics lines which is Russia’s worst part of their military. They don’t even know what the word logistics means. Then at one point a big push is going to have to come somewhere.
The problem that Russia has in the south is that every mile that Ukraine advances brings Ukrainian artillery closer to key supply routes and improves Ukraine's ability to choke logistics even more.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:42 pm to Strannix
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Ukraine is suffering heavy casualties,
In mass right?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:43 pm to GOP_Tiger
This isn't the first time we've talked about it, but his post today on the African "peace" delegation is a good reminder that Girkin, like most Russians, is just a teensy bit racist:
But at least he's not a Nazi!
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It is reported that the "peace mission" of African people ..., oh, that is, diplomats failed due to poor knowledge of geography. In the course of negotiations with Zelensky in Kiev, African canniba ... that is, politicians, without understanding, agreed to hold referendums in Kursk, Belgorod and Krasnodar under the control of UN troops, since they were told that these were "primordial Ukrainian lands."
When Vladimir Vladimirovich saw such a peace plan coordinated with Zelensky, he first ... agreed. But then I looked through the document more carefully, and saw that the last item was a "tourist trip to The Hague" for him personally. And finally changed my mind.
The Main Department of Internal Affairs of St. Petersburg also reports that during the visit of dear African guests, 3 white women and jewelry from a store visited by the delegation of the Cayman Islands disappeared without a trace, and a group of gypsy beggars from Nevsky Prospekt filed a complaint against the Prime Minister of the Desert Odicaria, stating that he intimidated them, deceived them, hypnotized them and lured out all the values ??earned by overwork. The prime minister, who was detained on the basis of a statement, turned out to be a first-year student of the Moscow Institute named after P. Lumumba - L. Pubumba, who had been on academic leave for 15 years and worked as an alpha male in the Moscow Zoo all these years.
P.S. Let representatives of the African continent not be offended by me, but respect for their "statesmen" involved in a fraudulent and treacherous operation hostile to my country, and even ugly and ridiculous in design and execution - I have no a priori.
But at least he's not a Nazi!
Posted on 6/18/23 at 7:52 pm to ticklechain
How do they manage to catch them all in Mass?
Catholic nazis?
Catholic nazis?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:02 pm to nitwit
Yeah they are about to surrender any day now. It wouldn’t matter comrade, cause the Poles are itching to drive through Belarus right into Moscow, and they are going to kill every fricking Russian they see bitch
Posted on 6/18/23 at 8:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
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African "peace" delegation
Thought this basically sums up why a settled peace won't happen anytime soon
LINK
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After his address, Putin cut into the presentations before the other heads of state could address him
He said he had some comments to make, including his claims that the crisis in Ukraine began in 2014 because of a coup d'état.
He said the Ukrainian people did not accept this coup and that Russia had to support these people.
Putin blamed the West for many of the issues in Ukraine, and said it was the West and not Russia that caused the sharp increase in food costs.
Lecturing the officials, Putin added that Russia was happy to negotiate with Ukraine, but that it was Ukraine that did not want to negotiate.
What Putin referred to as a "coup" was an uprising against the pro-Russian former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, after a rigged election. A democratic election followed this, and a new Ukrainian president was elected.
LINK
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But after presentations from the Comoran, Senegalese and South African leaders, he stepped in to challenge the assumptions of the plan before the round of comments from all the representatives could go any further.
Mr Putin reiterated his position that Ukraine and the West had started the conflict long before Russia sent its armed forces over the border in February last year.
He said the West, not Russia, was responsible for a sharp rise in global food prices early last year.
He told the delegation that Ukrainian grain exports from Black Sea ports that Russia has permitted for the past year were doing nothing to alleviate Africa's difficulties with high food prices because they had largely gone to wealthy countries.
He said Russia had never refused talks with the Ukrainian side, which had been blocked by Kyiv.
The African plan includes a call for all children caught up in the conflict to be returned to where they came from, but Mr Putin said Russia was not preventing any Ukrainian children from returning home.
"We took them out of a conflict zone, saving their lives," he said.
And why it won't be settled diplomatically in the near term
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Mr Ramaphosa said the war "must be settled" through negotiations and diplomatic means.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had said after meeting the leaders in Kyiv on Friday that peace talks with Russia would be possible only after Moscow withdrew its forces from occupied Ukrainian territory.
He added that he could not understand what could be gained from the delegation meeting Mr Putin.
Mr Putin said Russia was "open to constructive dialogue with anyone who wants to establish peace on the principles of fairness and acknowledgement of the legitimate interests of the parties".
However, Russia has said repeatedly that any settlement must take account of "new realities", meaning its declared annexation of five Ukrainian provinces, four of which it only partially controls.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:29 pm to StormyMcMan
This part of tonight's ISW report is bizarre:
I do not think that they are in any way in an operational pause. The tempo of the fight is not especially high right now, but there's still lots of fighting going on, with Ukraine attacking and taking ground today. Again, just a bizarre take.
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Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate their tactics for future operations. Head of the Estonian Defense Forces Intelligence Center Colonel Margo Grosberg stated on June 16 that he assesses "we won't see an offensive over the next seven days.”[7]The Wall Street Journal similarly reported on June 17 that Ukrainian forces “have mostly paused their advances in recent days” as Ukrainian command reexamines tactics.[8] These reports are consistent with ISW’s recent observations of the scale and approach of localized Ukrainian counterattacks in southern and eastern Ukraine.[9] ISW has previously noted that Ukraine has not yet committed the majority of its available forces to counteroffensive operations and has not yet launched its main effort.[10] Operational pauses are a common feature of major offensive undertakings, and this pause does not signify the end of Ukraine’s counteroffensive.
I do not think that they are in any way in an operational pause. The tempo of the fight is not especially high right now, but there's still lots of fighting going on, with Ukraine attacking and taking ground today. Again, just a bizarre take.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
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When Vladimir Vladimirovich saw such a peace plan coordinated with Zelensky, he first ... agreed. But then I looked through the document more carefully, and saw that the last item was a "tourist trip to The Hague" for him personally. And finally changed my mind.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 9:39 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive actions on at least four sectors of the front on June 18 and made limited territorial gains.
Ukrainian forces may be temporarily pausing counteroffensive operations to reevaluate their tactics for future operations.
A Wall Street Journal (WSJ) interview with Russian prisoners of war (POWs) indicates continued significant morale and command issues among frontline Russian units and the continued Russian use of “barrier forces” to shoot retreating soldiers.
EU Internal Market Commissioner Theirry Breton announced on June 18 that the EU is accelerating arms deliveries to Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly supported select Russian milbloggers’ proposal to create a Presidential Administration working group, likely in an effort to integrate prominent milbloggers into the pro-Kremlin information space.
Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks north of Svatove and south of Kreminna.
Russian and Ukrainian forces conducted limited ground attacks around Bakhmut and along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.
Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations on the administrative border between western Donetsk and eastern Zaporizhia oblasts.
Russian sources claimed that Russian forces continued to repel Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in western Zaporizhia Oblast
Some Russian ultranationalist figures are concerned that the Russian Ministry of Defense’s efforts to formalize volunteer formations will trigger command changes and degrade combat effectiveness.
Russian occupation officials are continuing to prioritize medical treatment for Russian military personnel in occupied Mariupol, reportedly significantly increasing the civilian mortality rate in the city.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:52 am to StormyMcMan
Things picked up in the last day or so.
Interesting article on how high tech goods are still getting into Russia.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade/Japan-made-semiconductors-skirt-sanctions-to-enter-Russia
Some unfortunate news for the OSINT community Oryx is handing in the towel from October 1st.
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1670723829713215489
Another big boom In Volnovakha, Donetsk region.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1670719331561353216 - Video
Doesn't seem like a healthy past time to be an official in occupied Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1670700902259277825
Interesting article on how high tech goods are still getting into Russia.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade/Japan-made-semiconductors-skirt-sanctions-to-enter-Russia
Some unfortunate news for the OSINT community Oryx is handing in the towel from October 1st.
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1670723829713215489
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Another big boom In Volnovakha, Donetsk region.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1670719331561353216 - Video
Doesn't seem like a healthy past time to be an official in occupied Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1670700902259277825
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In Simferopol, Crimea, a car with a Russian-appointed assistant to the Deputy Prime Minister of the Zaporizhzhia region, Vladimir Epifanov, exploded. - Russian media.
Epifanov, as well as his secretary and security guard, received severe burns and are now in the hospital.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:57 am to OutsideObserver
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 June 2023
Over the last ten days, Russia has highly likely started relocating elements of its Dnipro Group of Forces (DGF) from the eastern bank of the Dnipro River to reinforce the Zaporizhzhia and Bakhmut sectors.
This potentially involves several thousand troops from the 49th Army, including its 34th Separate Motorised Brigade, as well as Airborne Forces (VDV) and Naval Infantry units.
The DGF redeployment likely reflects Russia's perception that a major Ukrainian attack across the Dnipro is now less likely following the collapse of Kakhovka Dam and the resulting flooding.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 June 2023
Over the last ten days, Russia has highly likely started relocating elements of its Dnipro Group of Forces (DGF) from the eastern bank of the Dnipro River to reinforce the Zaporizhzhia and Bakhmut sectors.
This potentially involves several thousand troops from the 49th Army, including its 34th Separate Motorised Brigade, as well as Airborne Forces (VDV) and Naval Infantry units.
The DGF redeployment likely reflects Russia's perception that a major Ukrainian attack across the Dnipro is now less likely following the collapse of Kakhovka Dam and the resulting flooding.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:32 am to cypher
From The Kyiv Independent...
Air Force: Ukraine downs 4 missiles, 4 drones overnight
by Martin Fornusek June 19, 2023 10:23 AM
Ukraine shot down four Russian cruise missiles and four kamikaze drones launched overnight, the Air Force reported on June 19.
According to the report, four Russian Kalibr cruise missiles were launched from a submarine in the Black Sea.
Serhii Bratchuk, the head of the Public Council under the Odesa Regional Military Administration, said that the cruise missiles targeted Odesa Oblast but were all destroyed.
Russia launched the four Shahed-136/131 from the eastern coast of the Azov Sea. On the morning of June 19, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Governor reported the downing of four Russian drones over the oblast.
Air Force: Ukraine downs 4 missiles, 4 drones overnight
by Martin Fornusek June 19, 2023 10:23 AM
Ukraine shot down four Russian cruise missiles and four kamikaze drones launched overnight, the Air Force reported on June 19.
According to the report, four Russian Kalibr cruise missiles were launched from a submarine in the Black Sea.
Serhii Bratchuk, the head of the Public Council under the Odesa Regional Military Administration, said that the cruise missiles targeted Odesa Oblast but were all destroyed.
Russia launched the four Shahed-136/131 from the eastern coast of the Azov Sea. On the morning of June 19, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Governor reported the downing of four Russian drones over the oblast.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:12 am to StormyMcMan
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We took them out of a conflict zone, saving their lives
I dont for a second believe this was russia’s true intention.
Its a hard thing to hear about, children being removed from where they grew up and shipped across the continent. In many cases without their families.
However; there is a piece of me thankful they are out of the way.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 8:13 am
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:57 am to cypher
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From The Kyiv Independent... Air Force: Ukraine downs 4 missiles, 4 drones overnight by Martin Fornusek June 19, 2023 10:23 AM
I don’t follow the war as close as some do, what would those who do follow it say is the ratio of missiles and/or drones that get through to their target compared to those shot down?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:59 am to Darth_Vader
It is really hard to tell due to the limited information the Ukrainian Government is releasing.
It appears the interception ratio is around 90% or so with missiles and if you believe Ukraine, almost 100% with the Iranian drones.
It appears the interception ratio is around 90% or so with missiles and if you believe Ukraine, almost 100% with the Iranian drones.
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