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LA State Rep. Ivey: “Legislature Lazy, “Too Stupid to Work Together”

Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27343 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:21 am
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State Representative Barry Ivey had his Bulworth moment on Wednesday.

Rep. Ivey (R-Central) put political niceties aside and lit into his colleagues, accusing them of putting political agendas ahead of the needs of the people and of trying to protect their own power instead of giving the state's residents a fair shake at the polls.


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“You look at every bill that passed in this last year, what you’ll find is if it wasn’t backed by deep-pocket, corporate special interests, it didn’t have much of shot,” Rep. Ivey said during his speech. He added that he would not proposed any new legislation for the rest of the year, saying that he was tired of dealing with the legislature's "B. S."


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I’ve told people this institution is the laziest group of people I’ve ever worked with because it’s true, because we’ve got problems everywhere, and we don’t want to solve them,” Rep. Ivey said.

That remark caught the ire of Rep. Mark Wright (R-Covington), who asked House Speaker Clay Schexnayder (R-Gonzalez) for a point of order immediately after Rep. Ivey made his comment. Rep. Wright was the person who made the motion to table Rep. Ivey's bill.


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Rep. Lance Harris (R-Alexandria) took the floor after Rep. Ivey completed his speech. Rep. Harris's remarks earned the ire of House Democrats, including members of the Black Caucus.

“Life does not give you what you want," Rep. Harris told his colleagues. "It gives you what you deserve."

Rep. Kenny Cox (D-Natchitoches) stood to object to Rep. Harris's remarks, asking if Black Louisiana residents deserved only one minority-majority district despite making up one-third of the state's population.


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Looks like redistricting is getting entertaining at the Capitol these days.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:25 am to
If the black population is dispersed across the state in a wide manner, it is kind of hard to get a district of roughly a million people which is over 50% black.

Doubly so since the 2nd district is no longer just Orleans Parish, meaning it has to stretch from NOLA to BR to get one black district.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19616 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:26 am to
One of the drawbacks of democracy. You can only vote for the ones that choose to run. Folks should be able to outsource their representation.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2759 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Rep. Kenny Cox (D-Natchitoches) stood to object to Rep. Harris's remarks, asking if Black Louisiana residents deserved only one minority-majority district despite making up one-third of the state's population.


Does this faulty logic actually resonate with people?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:27 am to
The districts are supposed to be compact and have at least some connections between the different constituents in it.

The previous 4th district (Cleo Fields’ Zorro district) got declared unconstitutional in the 90s when it zig zagged from Shreveport to Monroe to Baker to Bogalusa.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:38 am to
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Rep. Kenny Cox (D-Natchitoches) stood to object to Rep. Harris's remarks, asking if Black Louisiana residents deserved only one minority-majority district despite making up one-third of the state's population.




Deserve has got nothing to do with it. Do White people deserve to have to live around soaring crime rates?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14963 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:41 am to
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If the black population is dispersed across the state in a wide manner, it is kind of hard to get a district of roughly a million people which is over 50% black.


That's a fair and reasonable point. However Rep. Wright didn't make that point. He moved to cut off debate and vote. That's what ticked off Ivey. They didn't just vote down his bill, they stopped him from presenting it. It's kinda a dick move even if you disagree with someone.

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Doubly so since the 2nd district is no longer just Orleans Parish, meaning it has to stretch from NOLA to BR to get one black district.


The debate was over increasing the number of MM Supreme Court seats from 1 to 2 (out of 7).
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39266 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:45 am to
Where's Barry been, it's the most dysfunctional legislative body in the US. Louisiana isn't called a Banana Republic for no reason.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:45 am to
Point still stands.

If you are required to make the seats about equal population size and contiguous, it gets extremely hard to create minority majority districts without hopscotching across about three or four major metro areas.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23000 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:46 am to
The legislature is lazy and most are cowards afraid to go bold

Fact
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 9:47 am
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39266 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 9:50 am to
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“Life does not give you what you want," Rep. Harris told his colleagues. "It gives you what you deserve."

Probably only a handful of times that something succinct has ever been spoken in that Legislature. That was one of them .
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12122 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:01 am to
Why does it always have to be about race?!?!?
Why can't it be about the culture and values of the people of an area.

Problems and interests in Northwest Louisiana (e.g. salvinia killing the lakes) are very different from the problems of Southwest Louisiana (e.g. coastal erosion).
You should try to group districts based on their shared needs and interests.

This whole cult of identity politics needs to stop.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103111 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:03 am to
This is why the previous second black congressional district got killed. No common issues between the constituents other than skin color.

The needs of a person in Shreveport are far different from the needs of a person in Bogalusa, which is almost as far apart as you could get in the state without replacing Bogalusa with Boothville-Venice.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7037 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:04 am to
Ivey was right too. Our legislators are mostly idiots. There are some thick skulls in the capitol.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7037 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Why does it always have to be about race?!?!?
Why can't it be about the culture and values of the people of an area.

Problems and interests in Northwest Louisiana (e.g. salvinia killing the lakes) are very different from the problems of Southwest Louisiana (e.g. coastal erosion).
You should try to group districts based on their shared needs and interests.

This whole cult of identity politics needs to stop.


Race can be a factor, the problem is that is often THE factor and it is bullshite.

If you draw a district to "not dilute the minority vote" aren't you inherently diluting the majority vote? Why is that ok.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9910 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:12 am to
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Louisiana isn't called a Banana Republic for no reason.


I learned about Sam the Banana Man and the banana republic from Drunk History
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6435 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:23 am to
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Where's Barry been, it's the most dysfunctional legislative body in the US.


Barry been around for awhile. Not like this is his first term.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2027 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 10:55 am to
what does that say about the people who voted for them?

Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23295 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 11:17 am to
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Ivey was right too. Our legislators are mostly idiots. There are some thick skulls in the capitol.




Just look at the fraud squad members that tells you all you need know about these clowns in Baton Rouge
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