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Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:57 am to spslayto
"I want justice for crimes committed against me, but I don't want to face justice for the crimes I've committed."
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:58 am to TheeRealCarolina
Joe Son, the UFC fighter who was Random Task in the Austin Powers movies, got identified by a DNA test as part of a gang rape and sent to jail.
IIRC, the crime he committed to end up subject to the DNA test was public urination.
IIRC, the crime he committed to end up subject to the DNA test was public urination.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:59 am to BuckyCheese
It’s an interesting practice that might have to go to scotus
SCOTUS ruled in the past it’s legal to collect suspect’s trash to get DNA evidence because they no longer have a right to privacy with it
Here the women are consenting to have their dna collected
Issue would be if they have a right to privacy with it still after consenting and submitting it
SCOTUS ruled in the past it’s legal to collect suspect’s trash to get DNA evidence because they no longer have a right to privacy with it
Here the women are consenting to have their dna collected
Issue would be if they have a right to privacy with it still after consenting and submitting it
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:03 am to Proximo
Just wait until the government gets everyone's DNA from 23andMe or AncestryDNA.
If they don't have it already.
If they don't have it already.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:05 am to spslayto
What kind of crimes are we talking about? I don't think they are using DNA to solve burglaries or white collar crimes. I imagine this would be for murders and the like.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:06 am to spslayto
I have no problem with this.
If you murder someone and then get raped, that may be karma, but you still should do time for the murder.
If you murder someone and then get raped, that may be karma, but you still should do time for the murder.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:07 am to Slippy
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Law enforcent should use every tool available to them to catch criminals.
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So, police state then?
yea frick that.
if the last year hasnt shown my fellow far right that the back the blue movement is dumb as frick...dunno what will.
so slippy will you feel the same way once they make things you do illegal? because we are moving in that direction.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:07 am to spslayto
Its a tricky thought process...
But if someone committed a serious enough crime to where they left DNA behind, I guess I don't care how they are caught.
But if someone committed a serious enough crime to where they left DNA behind, I guess I don't care how they are caught.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:09 am to lsu777
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so slippy will you feel the same way once they make things you do illegal? because we are moving in that direction.
It would only have to be after the law goes into effect...otherwise it would be ex post facto.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:09 am to Fun Bunch
They're not doing DNA swabs for ticky tack shite. If they have your DNA and are looking for you it's probably a fairly serious crime.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:09 am to artompkins
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Law enforcent should use every tool available to them to catch criminals.
Yikes. OK Stalin.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:09 am to efrad
quote:Problem is this type of practice has the unintended (or maybe intended?) side effect of encouraging more crimes.
"I want justice for crimes committed against me, but I don't want to face justice for the crimes I've committed."
I guess it depends on whether you feel that the goal of the legal system should be to protect law-abiding citizens, or to punish those who break the law.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:11 am to Korkstand
Can’t it be both?
Getting people off the street who commit crimes, especially violent crimes, tends to protect law abiding citizens.
Getting people off the street who commit crimes, especially violent crimes, tends to protect law abiding citizens.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:12 am to nes2010
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What kind of crimes are we talking about? I don't think they are using DNA to solve burglaries or white collar crimes. I imagine this would be for murders and the like.
Imagine all you want.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:12 am to Korkstand
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guess it depends on whether you feel that the goal of the legal system should be to protect law-abiding citizens
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
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or to punish those who break the law.
Also serves to protect the rest of us.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:13 am to spslayto
How many women that get raped committed a violent crime before?
That can’t be high number
That can’t be high number
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:18 am to teke184
quote:Sometimes, but not always.
Can’t it be both?
quote:It usually tends to, but IMO it's a question of our motivation for enforcing the law. If our guiding principle is to protect law abiding citizens, then we probably wouldn't discourage people from reporting crimes as serious as rape. If our guiding principle is to punish, then it sort of becomes more about quantity.
Getting people off the street who commit crimes, especially violent crimes, tends to protect law abiding citizens.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:21 am to spslayto
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Rape Kits Being Used to Identify Women As Suspects In Criminal Cases
Oh people are going to freak about this.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:22 am to BluegrassBelle
I don't have a problem with it because, somewhere else there was a victim of a crime that remains unsolved. What if that crime the rape victim did was murder or something else just as heinous.
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