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Dems face a sobering possibility: Build Back ... never

Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84825 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:38 am
President Joe Biden’s $1.7 trillion social and climate spending plan is dead as written, rejected by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). The Senate is moving onto a host of other issues that will take up the rest of the winter and possibly some of the spring. And some Democrats concede there’s a small but distinct possibility they could have to shelve the whole endeavor indefinitely.

“Absolutely, there’s the possibility,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who argued that Democrats can still assemble a productive midterm resume without a massive party-line spending bill.

“If we’re able to get the appropriations bills done, if we’re all able to get the Postal Service done, if we’re able to get some stuff done on toxic exposure [in the military], that would be a pretty good record,” he added.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer vowed in December that the chamber will “vote on a revised version of the House-passed Build Back Better Act — and we will keep voting on it until we get something done.” That’s not the strategy at the moment.

Instead, the Senate is now in a long cooling-off period after the twin failures of “Build Back Better” and a push to change the Senate rules to pass elections bills. Democrats are turning to fixing the Postal Service, sexual misconduct reform, spending bills, a Supreme Court vacancy, the Violence Against Women Act and possibly changing the Electoral Count Act and sanctioning Russia.

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Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117860 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:41 am to
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Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.),


This is hard to believe. How did this guy get elected?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103141 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:43 am to
Former governor of the state IIRC.

The Big Sky states tended to have Dem senators such as Daschle up until the last 15-20 years. And they still got a few back due to favorable election cycles.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:43 am to
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Violence Against Women Act


Going after black men, I see.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154686 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:43 am to
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toxic exposure [in the military],


JFC

Purging people that don’t vote like them.

Holy shite
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35771 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:43 am to
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How did this guy get elected?

Hell, they've elected him three times.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109721 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:44 am to
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The Big Sky states tended to have Dem senators such as Daschle up until the last 15-20 years. And they still got a few back due to favorable election cycles.


And moneyed Californians fleeing DEMOCRATIC policies.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:44 am to
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if we’re all able to get the Postal Service done


Why are they continuing to drop so much money on this system. It'd be like trying to continue funding telegraph after the advent of phones and internet.

They should chop 75% of all postal employees and have delivery service 1 or 2 days a week. Most of us only get trash they dump in our mailboxes every day.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103141 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:45 am to
That is more of a recent development.

They used to move to Oregon, Nevada, and Washington before spreading like locusts to Idaho and Montana.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84825 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:58 am to
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toxic exposure [in the military],
They are referring to cancer causing materials like the AFFF fire suppression foam.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20782 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:14 am to
Can't get the bigger bill done, so the plan is to break it out in pieces to get some of it done? Not a bad strategy on the surface, but they will continue to fail because a majority of the spending for these bills will have nothing to do with the purpose of the bill
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9608 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:16 am to
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Why are they continuing to drop so much money on this system. It'd be like trying to continue funding telegraph after the advent of phones and internet.

They should chop 75% of all postal employees and have delivery service 1 or 2 days a week. Most of us only get trash they dump in our mailboxes every day.


good idea, but you gotta' break the Union before any of that happens .....
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94785 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:20 am to
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Why are they continuing to drop so much money on this system. It'd be like trying to continue funding telegraph after the advent of phones and internet.


Rhymes with "crop boxes" and "hail-in voting".
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21912 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:45 am to
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Violence Against Women Act
Violence against women is already illegal. Also, men are by far the most common victims of violence, not women
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12538 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:57 am to
Many Dems in the senate don’t want this bill. They are just allowing Manchin and Senima to run cover for them.
Posted by riverparish
Member since Dec 2007
1534 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:00 pm to
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This is hard to believe. How did this guy get elected?


Maybe he’s their JBE.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Going after black men, I see.


So is junetenfh this year by falling on Father's Day. First official inaugural one. Ha.

Side note...anyone know the status of the NM senator that had the stroke? How is that affecting the current agenda? I figure certain things are on pause, but I don't trust the Dems to not figure something out.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:16 pm to
Irish people, plus the Democrats were the party of the industry there. Especially mining.


The Californication of Montana is happening though.

One good thing, the conservatives moving to Montana have been fairly radical. Perhaps because they’ve seen this happen back home. And they have no illusions.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35552 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:16 pm to
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President Joe Biden’s $1.7 trillion social and climate spending plan is dead as written, rejected by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.). 

But why would it not happen? Especially when it didn't cost a single cent to do it???



Remember that blatant lie that even the liberal media refused to latch onto?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6608 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:38 pm to
I spoke to a guy from South Carolina who's son moved to Montana. His son told him that on the whole, people in Montana are the most unfriendly nasty people he has ever met and he can't wait to get out of there.
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