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re: First look at Galadriel in Amazon’s The Lord of the Rings series
Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:55 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:55 am to RollTide1987
I know the LOTR nerds will come at me, but why is this needed? Really? They did three movies that are about 10 hours long. Did another 8-9 hours on the Hobbit, which was a thin little book. Why do this again? It wasn't that long ago.
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:58 am to wareaglepete
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why is this needed
Needed? Since when is needed a criteria for fiction based entertainment?
Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:58 am to imjustafatkid
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imjustafatkid
You melted over Isaiah Bradley, Commisioner Gordon, now this elf woman. You really dislike black people in your nerd culture.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:00 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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it's like a black actor can't just be, you know, the best actor.
This chick better be the female Peter O’Toole for them to make a dwarf in the LOTR black lolol
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:01 pm to wareaglepete
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I know the LOTR nerds will come at me, but why is this needed? Really? They did three movies that are about 10 hours long. Did another 8-9 hours on the Hobbit, which was a thin little book. Why do this again? It wasn't that long ago.
Come at you? We agree with you.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:01 pm to Hester Carries
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This chick better be the female Peter O’Toole for them to make a dwarf in the LOTR black lolol
what evidence do you have black people do not exist on middle earth?
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:03 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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what evidence do you have black people do not exist on middle earth?
Because we all understand the universe Tolkien was creating. Just because he doesn’t explicitly say that something didn’t happen doesn’t mean it makes sense to add it in.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:04 pm to JetsetNuggs
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I've always disliked this argument
There is no reason, other than personal agendas, that they can't make things just like source materials
What? There's a reason that %99 of books are better than the movie. It's very rare for a movie to be better than the book. I read a good bit and can only think of 3 movies based off a book where I actually like the movie better. This just shows you don't read a lot (im not knocking you for that), because you would know that even on the best adaptions, a lot of stuff has to be changed. And not all of the changes are based off personal agenda, that's ridiculous to think that
This applies even more so to Fantasy. Fantasy is really hard to properly adapt to TV. Especially this when you are trying to add in characters from the Silmarillion that are God/Angelic like characters.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:04 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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what evidence do you have black people do not exist on middle earth?
Where they been hidin?
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:06 pm to Hester Carries
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Where they been hidin?
caves and shite
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:09 pm to wareaglepete
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I know the LOTR nerds will come at me, but why is this needed? Really? They did three movies that are about 10 hours long. Did another 8-9 hours on the Hobbit, which was a thin little book. Why do this again? It wasn't that long ago.
No it wasn't. I wish they hadn't made it. I've said for years that this material is too hard to adapt to do it justice. I'm going to watch it and hope its good, but i'm definitely not getting my hopes up and wont have a problem to stop watching early on if they boot it up. But having a black dwarf certainly isn't a thing that is going to get me upset. If her plot line sucks, sure, but not because she is black.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:11 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Also someone want to explain to me how there are black dwarfs? Are there Asian dwarfs? Are there little enclaves of immigrant dwarfs? Does this chick have 2 black dwarf parents? Are they from a different continent? Please…go on….explain it
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:14 pm to Hester Carries
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Also someone want to explain to me how there are black dwarfs? Are there Asian dwarfs? Are there little enclaves of immigrant dwarfs? Does this chick have 2 black dwarf parents? Are they from a different continent? Please…go on….explain it
As it's been mentioned multiple times in this thread:
Elves have been described by Tolkien has being fair and white skinned.
Men have been described by Tolkien as having both fair and dark skin based on where they're from.
Tolkien has never described the skin tone of Dwarves and so there is no reason to think they can't have more than one.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:16 pm to theGarnetWay
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Tolkien has never described the skin tone of Dwarves and so there is no reason to think they can't have more than one.
So this dwarf is an immigrant dwarf?
Or do they just pop out all different colors like a litter of cats? If so then why has every other depiction of a dwarf not included any other ones?
You didnt explain shite….
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:16 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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upvote every picture until blackwashing.
Fixed.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:20 pm to theGarnetWay
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Tolkien has never described the skin tone of Dwarves and so there is no reason to think they can't have more than one.
Tolkien pulled dwarves from Nordic and Germanic folklore. Neither was known for racial diversity in their folklore.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:26 pm to Havoc
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we'll never know if the person was the best, will we?
Kinda like all the pre-1947 baseball records and stats.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:28 pm to theGarnetWay
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Tolkien has never described the skin tone of Dwarves and so there is no reason to think they can't have more than one.
How about simple common sense over the fact that Tolkien based them on Norse myths and Germanic folklore. We’re a few seasons away if someone saying “Well Tolkien never explicitly said that there wasn’t a transvestite non-binary half elf sired by Celebrimbor that fought in the Battle of the Last Alliance, so what’s the big deal?” All the Woke are capable of is corrupting and destroying art. They are incapable of creating it.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:28 pm to Hester Carries
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You didnt explain shite….
Exactly. Tolkien didn't specify their race or if they have multiple skin tones.
That means there's I can't offer you an explanation for why there should be black Dwarves and you can't explain why there shouldn't be.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 12:30 pm to theGarnetWay
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That means there's I can't offer you an explanation for why there should be black Dwarves and you can't explain why there shouldn't be.
I raised SEVERAL questions about what the implications would be.
You skirted them .
Skin color means far more than how dark you are. It implies history and migration, and tribalism and tons of other shite.
You can’t just drop a black dwarf in there lol
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 12:32 pm
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