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re: Crime is OOC around the country

Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118933 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:39 am to
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The new NYC DA came out with a bunch of crimes he's going to stop prosecuting too, including theft. We'll see how that works out for the law abiding citizens of the city.



One of them is resisting arrest
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
50203 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:41 am to
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One of them is resisting arrest

I saw that. What a clown world. Way to put your own police officers in additional danger.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
114293 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:41 am to
Mmmbeer would eat it up because he saw a documentary that was sad and his wife’s boyfriend would have less chance of arrest
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9722 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:47 am to
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Mmmbeer


where did he go?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18699 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:47 am to
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Weird how crime disappeared when trump was in the White House

Homicides jumped ~30% his final year in office. It's incredible you could live through an event and be this wrong recollecting it.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9722 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:50 am to
The inmates are literally running the asylum.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37487 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:55 am to
First we saw local mayors and local politicians throw the void under the bus. Some eventually announced that we need to defund the police and let communities police themselves.

We saw riots all across the country, and the authorities just let it happen. Thugs, gang members and punks saw that they could violate the law with impunity and nothing would happen.

Lawmakers themselves picked laws they wanted enforced and ignored the others. The cops were instructed to ignore petty crime and we saw 900 dollar smash and grabs and stealing 900 dollars or less become rampant.

Police became a four letter word and people wonder why crime is out of control.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 11:11 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
58345 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:56 am to
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It is the DA's job to prosecute all crimes when committed to the full extent of the law.


I disagree with this definition of what a DA is and what they should be doing.

A DA's job and responsibility is to persue justice wherever that pursuit may lead. They should be above the fray in regards to the political bullshite. The key words there being should be.

A DA with a 100% conviction rate can be, and often is, just as bad as one who refuses to press charges or try cases. Nancy Grace is a prime example of this. She made her career on her impeccable conviction record. That says to me that all she was worried about was her public image, not justice. I don't believe for one second that every single person she charged was, in reality, guilty. The law of averages just doesn't work that way.
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2152 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:59 am to
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Unlike the meth and fentanyl soaked rural areas of the country, eh?

Just like cities, you can simply ride around and figure out the better places to live out here in the country. Yes they're more expensive, oh well.

Anybody driving down our country road looking for trouble, they gonna find more than they can handle.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
38292 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:05 am to
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honestly liked what some of them were saying but, again, they sure as frick didn't intimate they wanted anything like the numbers you just posted. Not cool.


Nobody wants the numbers you doddering fool. It’s just the inevitable end result of the policies you liked some of.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
38292 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:09 am to
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don't believe for one second that every single person she charged was, in reality, guilty. The law of averages just doesn't work that way.


I could. She may have been extremely selective in whom she prosecuted. What is much more likely is that many guilty parties were not charged.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7738 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:15 am to
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here ya go


That article honestly confuses me, especially the second case (rape).

The first one, sounds like dude was in jail for five years because he couldn't make bail? He had one trial but it was declared a mistrial and has been unable to get a new trial since. So, despite never being found guilty or convicted of a crime, he spent 5 years behind bars and an additional 3 years out on bond? If the courts can't get this dude a trial within 8 years of being accused of a crime, I mean, I kinda get it. As the judge said, the man was not receiving justice. Also, the involvement of the Innocence Project, who I think VERY highly of, makes me further believe that the reason for the mistrial/hung jury was due to inadequate evidence.

The second one, I'm totally lost. Seems the dude was complaining about the jury? They granted him a new trial but then the DA offered him some sort of plea deal that, once rebuffed by his lawyers, led to his release? I don't understand what happened there, nor do I understand why Kim Kardashian is lobbying for the dude. Seems the DA definitely dropped the ball on this one.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:21 am to
Shucks,it's too bad we had a virus! Gosh, everyone was working hard and rowing the boat together and then, darnit, a mean old virus got started. Aw heck, I hate that heckin' virus
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9722 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:24 pm to
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I don't understand what happened there, nor do I understand why Kim Kardashian is lobbying for the dude. Seems the DA definitely dropped the ball on this one.


The new DA set up a "sit down" between the victim and the perp - it's pretty messed up really. I'm assuming if these were white guys the cases wouldn't have gone away, but IDK

I really like the "I was just there to steal change again" defense.

And I really am dealing with a POS drug dealing mofo that's running around the streets. The cops and DAs aren't doing jack shite - especially in blue areas - and they know it. It will only get worse until we start getting tougher on crime.

There is no reason for these jack wads to be running around in the wild and committing crimes against normal people. They should be locked up - again and again and again until they're too old and feeble to do it again.
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3182 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:37 pm to
Man, where do you guys live? I haven’t locked my doors except when on vacation in years. The worst crime my family has experienced is 2 eggs on my car one morning and someone stole some change out of my husbands car.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Man, where do you guys live


I would guess a large number of people on td live in nola/br/South LA.

You lock your doors there all the time
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37459 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:39 pm to
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It is the DA's job to prosecute all crimes when committed to the full extent of the law.



DAs offices have way too much freedom. The fact that a DA can refuse to prosecute or plea down anything they want is ridiculous.

They ought to have to justify every move they make. I am sure they receive some shitty cases at times and those can be dismissed or amended to the appropriate charge, but not everything they dismiss is due to lack of evidence.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3182 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:41 pm to
Probably but there must be good parts of town where crime is negligible.

Edit: I assume that every city has a crime ridden area but I also assume that most people here are fortunate to live in the safer more affluent areas?
This post was edited on 1/24/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:43 pm to
There is nowhere in br or nola where you can justify not locking your doors
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
72613 posts
Posted on 1/24/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Violent crime is prosecuted the same today as it was 10 years ago.


I'd love to see some stats to back that up.
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