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re: Tough career decision

Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19102 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:00 pm to
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but no insurance or IRA/401k.


then the starting pay is lower than what you are getting now. These benefits are huge issues. IRA/401k money missed at 28 is HUUUUUUUGGGGEEE. Health care costs are $15k at least for you.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:00 pm to
Job jumping is a big no for me when the small gig does not work out. Put down roots, compete. This is the equivalent of transfer portal.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52986 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:02 pm to
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Good salespeople make TERRIBLE operations people.

I was Fortune 500 sales- and badass at it. So much so I worked for the brand President before I left to go out on my own.

Operations is my weak point- and everyone on my management team now tells me “We gotta get the salesman out of you somehow”

Only you know if you can make this jump. But it’s TOTALLY opposite of what you’re doing now.


I would say I'm an average salesperson unless it's a product I personally believe in. I'm a bad BSer

Personality wise, operations would probably fit me better which is really the only reason I'm considering it.
Posted by Patfic15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2018
3272 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:10 pm to
Just make the gahdamn fries.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
1851 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:14 pm to
You aren't responding to the things that matter, Healthcare and savings. You could 50/50 hit it big with start up...but if owner isn't offering you a true competitive comp it is a very bad decision to move.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36740 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:14 pm to
we pay out of the arse for health insurance. Price it and it may make your decision clear.
Posted by Slingin Pickle
Fancy side of the North Shore
Member since Jun 2008
3013 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:17 pm to
How much growth is there for you really at the small gig? If you don’t share the same last name as the owner, it probably isn’t what you think it will be.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6082 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:18 pm to
It’s a risk but this is the best time in your life to try something like this. Once kids show up you are going to be much more conservative in your choices. I say go for it.

Also, unless she’s at the gym all day keeping it tight the stay at home wife needs to step up a little
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52986 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:19 pm to
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You aren't responding to the things that matter, Healthcare and savings. 


My in laws use a Christian medical debt sharing program that they really like, they've made multiple claims and said it's way better/cheaper than insurance and it'd cost me about $1k more annually than what I pay now through my current employer.

Retirement savings and matching are where I'd be losing but the owner says they do plan to offer that very soon.

No timeline as of yet though.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56101 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:19 pm to
Managing people is a pain in the arse. Couple that with no benefits, and I can’t see why you would leave your current job.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5181 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:20 pm to
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opportunity to become the operations manager for a small business (8 full time employees, some contract workers)


Another angle here, you would be managing employees at a company that doesnt have benefits for it's operations manager. Think of the quality level of employees you would be managing.

Ive been there done that. Drove a bus to pickup my employees from jail for work-release. I spent more time policing smoke break durations than actual work.

Posted by Devilsturn
Member since Aug 2020
253 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:20 pm to
Sounds like you’re really enjoying life at a job you enjoy.

Doesn’t get any better than that.

Grass has not always been greener in my experiences.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48747 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:21 pm to
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Ive been there done that. Drove a bus to pickup my employees from jail for work-release. I spent more time policing smoke break durations than actual work.

Did they sell many 1994 Mitsubishis though?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166472 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:30 pm to
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no benefits


Keep repeating to yourself.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3357 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:33 pm to
If it’s a start-up, push for equity in the biz.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
4917 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:34 pm to
Won't be the answer you're looking for, but only you know the answer to this question and you've likely already decided on it.

If you're asking, my gut tells me you are looking for an out from the big company. I can likely relate as someone who worked at a Fortune 50 as a top sales rep at the same age. Just turned 30. Making assumptions, but assume you're tired of the bureaucracy from said Fortune 500. Too many reports. Too many team huddles/calls. Don't feel like you're making an impact. Seems like all my 25-35 year old sales buddies hit this feeling.

The small jump to operations may work. I have seen it work for good friends of mine. I will say though, everyone that did and did it successfully, left analyst or data type roles to to be operators not sales. It's a different beast.

It will be more work. If your fortune 500 is paying your company car, letting you work remote, and you have a good boss, sticking around may not be the worse. If you're set on leaving, you're young enough to go try for 18-24 months and at worst, jump right back into big corporate if it doesn't pan out. There's always BD roles there.

I left Fortune 50 for a smaller company with 300 people. I couldn't be more pumped about it and the vibe change is noticeable from day 1.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:35 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18454 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:34 pm to
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But doing a lot of the work herself honestly.


My wife and I both work, have two kids, and are remodeling our house. She does a lot of DIY projects.

Your wife is either extremely lazy or better be so hot that you don’t care if she works or not.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28994 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:41 pm to
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The cons are no benefits, newish company, a lot of uncertainty. Pros are a ton of opportunity for future growth, the chance to have a lot of effect on the company, and it's a majority work from home position. Starting pay would be basically the same. I enjoy what I do now and like the people I work with but the challenge of helping build a business sounds very intriguing to me. I like the owner well and we seem to have similar views and thought processes about the future direction of the company.


I was in a steady enjoyable job with about 2k employees when an opportunity with a very small company.

Tiny raise at the time but is great now.

Money aside, working for a small company and being an integral part of all the business is so much more rewarding than being a replaceable cog in the machine.

There’s stress to building a small business especially when times are lean but being a part of a team that can be agile and doesn’t have a bloated bureaucracy has been incredibly rewarding.


If I died at my last job, they’d pass a card around to sign and that would be the end of it. The job would be posted before I was in the ground. If I died at this company I know my boss would take care of my family.

It worked out for me but everybody and every job is different.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:57 pm to
As someone who has pretty much only worked for small businesses, stick with the Fortune 500.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:58 pm to
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