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re: Tough career decision
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:44 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:44 am to SidewalkTiger
I would do it, but you also can be a jerk somtimes to people on the rant, so I'm not sure if I'm taking your best interests to heart. 
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:11 am to SidewalkTiger
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The owner says they're working toward offering those things but obviously not there yet.
In other words, likley never.
Screw that...
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:12 am to MEANGREEN65
This is the answer.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:12 am to kywildcatfanone
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I would do it, but you also can be a jerk somtimes to people on the rant, so I'm not sure if I'm taking your best interests to heart.
People take me far too seriously
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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There is PTO and paid holidays but no insurance or IRA/401k.
The owner says they're working toward offering those things but obviously not there yet.
Then tell him to get back to you when those things are in place. Promises of putting it in place mean nothing because having worked at smaller/young companies, something else will ALWAYS come first before insurance.
The only way I would consider it is if you also had some opportunity to be a partner or a share of profits or something. Just an employee? Nope.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:33 am to SidewalkTiger
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8 full time employees, some contract workers
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no benefits, newish company, a lot of uncertainty.
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Starting pay would be basically the same.
Dude, respectfully, frick that. This would be a terrible move.
I work in tech and get hit up for opportunities like this all the time. I’ve stayed at my much more stable company, while I’ve watched many friends leave for opportunities like this. 90% are looking for another job within 12 months.
The most common feedback I’ve heard from friends who left for opportunities like this and became unhappy was something to the effect of, “they didn’t have their shite together, there were no SOPs, it was a complete clusterfrick.”
If the pay is the same, go with the more stable company.
IMO, the only thing worth sacrificing stability for is if a very new company offers you a shite ton of equity and you think there’s a strong chance they’ll either go public or be acquired.
Good luck
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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I like the owner well and we seem to have similar views and thought processes about the future direction of the company.
Sadly this usually turns out like a hideous Lifetime movie. Almost always start out great. Then in the near future some slight disagreements. Then turns into major difficulties, followed by firings, lawsuits, acrimony, strife, etc.
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The cons are no benefits, newish company, a lot of uncertainty.
That is a MAJOR fricking con.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:37 am to SidewalkTiger
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no insurance or IRA/401k.
Oh wow. In addition to my above thoughts, this makes it a holy frick no.
Stay where you’re at man. You’re young, you’re going to get many job offers in your lifetime.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:47 am to Grateful Reb
Not to mention running ops at a company with 'uncertainty' sounds awful.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:34 am to Jon Ham
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It can be a huge pain in the arse. He will end up doing 2 or 3 jobs for the cost of one with the hope that it will pay off one day when the business grows and the owner somehow magically decides to pay him what he’s actually worth (prediction: will probably never happen).
This is a legit risk. A lot depends on factors unknown here...product/service, established customer base?, business plan, role/process documentation, etc. If a moving company, I say no.
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