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NIL and scholarship limits

Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:39 am
Posted by 79ABTEXTIGER
Abilene, TX
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:39 am
What keeps a team from using NIL money for walk on players and not counting against the scholarship limit. The scholarship is worth way less than what a high profile recruit can make through NIL.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50439 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:52 am to
Nothing.

Probably belongs on the MSB.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111257 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:14 am to
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What keeps a team from using NIL money for walk on players and not counting against the scholarship limit
The rules
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11227 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:26 am to
Rules?

We're way past that now.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7319 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:30 am to
Schools are not paying the money. It is private businesses.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22046 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:47 am to
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Schools are not paying the money. It is private businesses.
Yes, but lets not pretend like schools don't have some sway in arranging lucrative NIL deals between certain recruits and businesses owned by big time boosters.

Though if a school starts having 4* recruits coming in as walk on's, that should attract some NCAA prying eyes.
Posted by 79ABTEXTIGER
Abilene, TX
Member since Jul 2009
212 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:56 am to
If there is a “disconnect “ between NIL and schools I don’t see where rules come into play. There are no NCAA rules applicable to businesses/boosters.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50439 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:14 pm to
People need to look at NIL like pro players doing commercials.

Aaron Rodgers can make as much as he wants doing commercials for insurance and car dealers and it has no effect on his NFL salary. Nor the salary cap.

Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5216 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:14 pm to
They can attract every eye in the universe, the NCAA has no business or jurisdiction or shred of ability to stay that a player can't sign a contract with a company.

I think the new rule is fricking up football, but they wrote it this way.
Posted by 79ABTEXTIGER
Abilene, TX
Member since Jul 2009
212 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:24 pm to
But the commercials do not keep Rogers in Green Bay. He can get endorsements in any city.

And there in lies the problem.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50439 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:30 pm to
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But the commercials do not keep Rogers in Green Bay. He can get endorsements in any city.

And there in lies the problem.



Bergstrom Chevrolet isn't paying him to do commercials if he's in LA.
Posted by 79ABTEXTIGER
Abilene, TX
Member since Jul 2009
212 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:38 pm to
A dealership in LA will pay him. My point is he is under contract. And that keeps him in GB. Can you imagine the chaos in the NFL if players were signed to 1 year contracts.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101942 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:51 pm to
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People need to look at NIL like pro players doing commercials.

Aaron Rodgers can make as much as he wants doing commercials for insurance and car dealers and it has no effect on his NFL salary. Nor the salary cap.



Are specific professional teams attracting players over other teams because of their ability to get their pro players to "do commercials," and using that to their advantage accordingly?

I guess you could say some may be subtly doing so by highlighting attracting their connections to certain "big markets," but the Aaron Rodgers example you chose to cite sort of dispels that notion.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21606 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Though if a school starts having 4* recruits coming in as walk on's, that should attract some NCAA prying eyes.


Depends what school.

Beloved Michigan, no way. Central Michigan, they'd better have their bottoms puckered.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50439 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:18 pm to
The point is the money is not coming from the school. The NCAA can't do a fricking thing about it as they can no longer restrict the players from earning money from outside sources per the law.

People asked for it and they got it.

People that thought top players would be making a few bucks from autographs were morons.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11265 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:21 pm to
Sounds like a nice little loop hole to get ahead of the curve. Somebody call Gordon and get this going before Saban thinks of it.
Posted by 79ABTEXTIGER
Abilene, TX
Member since Jul 2009
212 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:24 pm to
I couldn’t agree more.

The college football I grew up with is over. And I doubt that the new college football will appeal to me.

I do see the transfer portal becoming more of a recruiting source than high school.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18230 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 6:05 pm to
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What keeps a team from using NIL money for walk on players and not counting against the scholarship limit.

Most notably would be the players not wanting to blow most of their money paying for school out of pocket

quote:

The scholarship is worth way less than what a high profile recruit can make through NIL.

Oh my... you think 5 star players are gonna walk on without a scholarship. LSU is like 36k a year for out of state students. Not a one of them want to waste their earnings on that
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48122 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 6:49 pm to
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the NCAA has no business or jurisdiction or shred of ability to stay that a player can't sign a contract with a company.



do they not sanction the teams, schools, and conferences that player plays in?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
48122 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 6:52 pm to
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I guess you could say some may be subtly doing so by highlighting attracting their connections to certain "big markets," but the Aaron Rodgers example you chose to cite sort of dispels that notion.



Football is unique in that Aaron Rodgers can be in the smallest market and still compete for Super Bowls, but it's absolutely messed up the NBA and to a lesser extent baseball
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