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So what really is the inflation number?

Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5652 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:22 am
Having grown up and began working in the late 70s, inflation was double digit for years. Now reports of 6.8% inflation excluding food and energy, really? If we use the same criteria as we did 50 years ago, what is todays real inflation rate? I would think closer to double digit. Anyone on here have any data sources for comparison?
Posted by DirtMcGirt13
Hot Lanta by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
832 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:23 am to
Tree fiddy
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:24 am to
Probably 10% minimum.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:25 am to
well they removed everything used to gage it that goes up with inflation so you can be paying 100 times more for 90% of the shite you need to live while they still claim not 1 pennny more of inflation.

when they dont count the cost of food, gas, and utilities as inflationary, then nothing is
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18147 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:26 am to
quote:

If we use the same criteria as we did 50 years ago, what is todays real inflation rate?

You’re catching on.

Ever wonder how many flu deaths we’d have had in the past if we used the same criteria we have for Covid? Think about that -
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10550 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:26 am to
It depends on what is included in the formula.

I think it’s closer to 10%

The question is whether it’s transitory. The government is going to call it transitory until they change their mind.

I recall the 70’s and early 80’s and interest rates shot through the roof but eventually inflation got tamed. I expect something like that to happen again but maybe not as severe
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49092 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:27 am to
Probably around 13-17%
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:32 am to
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15845 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 9:32 am to
I read Greenspan’s Bubbles a while back. In it, the author describes how the Fed can swap out goods and services from their basket in order to hit their inflation target. So their stats are almost always skewed.

Don’t think of inflation as an overall figure that applies to everything. Instead, look at the various sectors and see how much things are increasing. Housing, autos, food, energy, etc. are all increasing at different rates for different reasons, much of which ultimately goes back to government intervention.

The price of a meal at a restaurant is going to go up due to food and labor costs, while energy costs are going up due to restrictions affecting supply. Different reasons, different rates, most because the government has done something somewhere to affect them.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6616 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:05 am to
18 - 20 % . The Big Hurt is Coming.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112666 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Now reports of 6.8% inflation excluding food and energy, really?


The inflation rate is zero excluding everything that costs more.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3281 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:09 am to
When inflation was last reported at 5-6% a month or so ago, I read that if calculated like it was during the 70s it would have been 14%. So, a bit higher than that. Probably 15%.
Posted by APHA
Corpus Christi
Member since Mar 2013
334 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:11 pm to
35%
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7267 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:54 pm to
I'd guess around 15% if they cared to include food and energy.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6162 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:57 pm to
7.4%
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19817 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 2:01 pm to
This the CPI has become a government run shell game.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96590 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 2:14 pm to
Over 9000
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