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Why do gung ho Trumpers think this election will be different?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:19 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:19 am
What is either going to a) swing Biden voters from 2020 to trump in 2024, or b) prevent an alleged election steal from happening yet again?
I voted for trump in 2020 but it was more of a vote against Biden. Still have never voted democrat for president, but I don’t see what has changed that would swing it (the election that is) to trump, in fact I’d argue he’s worse off now than before. I don’t think the inflation stuff will be as top of mind next fall as it has been the past year.
I voted for trump in 2020 but it was more of a vote against Biden. Still have never voted democrat for president, but I don’t see what has changed that would swing it (the election that is) to trump, in fact I’d argue he’s worse off now than before. I don’t think the inflation stuff will be as top of mind next fall as it has been the past year.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 6:25 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:25 am to JumpingTheShark
Won't be a lot different. Ballot Harvesting with fraudulent votes rules the election, and until Voter ID is enforced any election will be 'rigged'. But like they say "elections have consequences". At some point it won't be talk and elections that determine the fate of what is left of the Nation's fast changing populous. Though AI 'talk' will factor in.
The USA was a 'gated community' for the duration. No longer, as the Transnational Progressive ideology has won over the intelligentsia.
The USA was a 'gated community' for the duration. No longer, as the Transnational Progressive ideology has won over the intelligentsia.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:26 am to JumpingTheShark
Perhaps because USA is laughing stock of the world. We will be lucky if we are not at war with Russia, China & N Korea. They smell blood because of weak arse Biden. Trump kept them in check. So yeah perhaps the independants/Republicans are smart enough to see our Country will go down if Biden is elected 

This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 6:31 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:28 am to kajuntiga
I think the registered republicans that dislike trump are more of a factor than straight up independents, but that’s just my humble two cents and my perception. I could be totally wrong
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:30 am to JumpingTheShark
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Why do gung ho Trumpers think this election will be different?
Regardless which non democrat I vote for, I already know the Democrats will step up every nefarious election manipulation tactic and boost them with steroids and meth. Those bastards are win at all costs 1st, destroy America 2nd.
I am still hopeful, but not optimistic no matter who or how good the non Democrat is.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:32 am to JumpingTheShark
Ok I fixed it:
perhaps the independants/Republicans
perhaps the independants/Republicans
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:35 am to JumpingTheShark
Biden has something he didn't have 4 years ago.
A shitty record.
While I know our election systems are not credible and odds aren't good,
I also know that the odds go to zero if I don't participate.
A shitty record.
While I know our election systems are not credible and odds aren't good,
I also know that the odds go to zero if I don't participate.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:37 am to JumpingTheShark
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but I don’t see what has changed that would swing it (the election that is) to trump, in fact I’d argue he’s worse off now than before. I don’t think the inflation stuff will be as top of mind next fall as it has been the past year.
While nobody can see the future, based on what we've seen so far from this administration nothing will improve. There will be many issues to point out failed Democrat policies. Personally, I don't think Biden will be the representing the left but won't matter, America has seen what liberal policies produce. IMHO
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:42 am to RCDfan1950
Does Trump have a ballot harvesting plan in place this go round or is he just planning to complain on Twitter like he did in 2020?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:43 am to JumpingTheShark
Trump or whoever is the GOP nominee needs go all out and make this a GOP vs. Kamala Harris and need to create so much voter apathy in the Democrats that they won't even vote.
Of course the GOP needs to be as aggressive at ballot harvesting as the Dems
Of course the GOP needs to be as aggressive at ballot harvesting as the Dems
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:44 am to JumpingTheShark
Would have been nice if the Trump administration took some steps to secure elections.
Trump has done nothing since 2020 to try to bring in new voters.
Trump has done nothing since 2020 to try to bring in new voters.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:45 am to JumpingTheShark
I’m a gung ho Trump fan. I like DeSantis as well. I’m jaded as shite of the process though. I don’t think it’s going to matter who the Republicans nominate…we will always run the risk of the 3am 100% Dem vote drops in some of these states until the process is fixed. The precedent has been set on how to do it and not be challenged on it either. My gracious we even had the shite on fricking tape…and yet crickets.
The only consequences for 11/3/2020 befell those Jan 6 folks who did try to call it out in person. Those of us yearning for a valid election have been checkmated for now. No question about it. Hell they even tried it in 2016. I remember the vote tally stoppage in several states while they looked for HRC votes. They were caught off guard then. Covid laid the easy out foundation however in 2020. The fraud hubs got a gift from the Vote Fraud gods on high. Trump tried to call it out in the Summer of 2020 but was shouted down with the quickness by the Dems and their MSM apparatus. I ‘member that too. The only question I have about 2024 at this point is to see if the Dems try anything more clever in their cheating or just go with a 2020 carbon copy?
The only consequences for 11/3/2020 befell those Jan 6 folks who did try to call it out in person. Those of us yearning for a valid election have been checkmated for now. No question about it. Hell they even tried it in 2016. I remember the vote tally stoppage in several states while they looked for HRC votes. They were caught off guard then. Covid laid the easy out foundation however in 2020. The fraud hubs got a gift from the Vote Fraud gods on high. Trump tried to call it out in the Summer of 2020 but was shouted down with the quickness by the Dems and their MSM apparatus. I ‘member that too. The only question I have about 2024 at this point is to see if the Dems try anything more clever in their cheating or just go with a 2020 carbon copy?
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 6:46 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:49 am to RCDfan1950
yup, thats it in a nutshell
all the arguing trump vs ???? means nothing unless elections are reformed.
The swamp/uniparty will install whoever they want.
all the arguing trump vs ???? means nothing unless elections are reformed.
The swamp/uniparty will install whoever they want.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:04 am to JumpingTheShark
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What is either going to a) swing Biden voters from 2020 to trump in 2024, or b) prevent an alleged election steal from happening yet again?
The question for this election should be:
Who's has better policies for America? Trump or Biden?
The soccer moms that voted against Trump thought everything would be the same with Biden, except the President wouldn't be such a meanie.
We've had 2 1/2 years of Biden and they realize that it DOES make a difference. Those same soccer moms are scared to death that their kid is going to be drafted and sent to die for Ukraine. Or Taiwan. They are also worried that they are going to have to go back to work in order to pay the bills.
We've gone through 30 years of not worrying too much about WW III, inflation, and whether or not the President is going to screw up the country. Now we see.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:13 am to JumpingTheShark
I'm in the camp of 'no Republican can win against the Democrat strategy of hiding the candidate away and letting msm and gov controlled social media campaign for them, and tear down their opponent'
Has nothing to do with the cheating accusations trump claimed. I just think a lot of people are underestimating how powerful that strategy is.
Has nothing to do with the cheating accusations trump claimed. I just think a lot of people are underestimating how powerful that strategy is.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 7:18 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:22 am to Plx1776
I tend to agree with you and it doesn’t help when the republicans candidate is a BIG talker and can’t keep himself from tweeting.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:24 am to TrueTiger
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I also know that the odds go to zero if I don't participate.
Ehh Louisiana is voting for a Republican president.
This election was stolen in just a few areas. So unless you plan on moving there, your vote doesnt matter as much as you think it does.
We are lucky that New Orleans is a complete shite hole that cant get its population numbers up so we dont have to worry about one shite parish deciding the presidency in LA.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:26 am to JumpingTheShark
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Why do gung ho Trumpers think this election will be different?
Hope
Because if another dem or GOPe gets selected it's over for the country.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:31 am to RCDfan1950
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Won't be a lot different. Ballot Harvesting with fraudulent votes rules the election, and until Voter ID is enforced any election will be 'rigged'.
True.
However, the ONLY defense against election rigging is the pressure that the Republican Party can bring to bear, in advance of the election, to thwart election rigging, or match election rigging. And it's clear, at least to me, that if Trump is the candidate, the Party will do nothing, and if someone else is the candidate, the Party may chose to fight.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:40 am to TrueTiger
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Biden has something he didn't have 4 years ago.
A shitty record.
He had damn near a 50 years record before he ran. One that included multiple failed attempts to be elected POTUS. The nation had been discrediting Biden forever...until he became the chosen trojan horse to infiltrate the White House and usher in Obama admin 2.0. Hell, no one was even fired up about Biden when he ran in 2020.
Didn't matter. The powers that be, joined by a wholly ignorant and devoid of perspective populace, took what was just the next in line of respiratory illnesses originating from Asia, something that had been occurring every 7-8 years for DECADES, and purposely turned it into the apocalypse. Virtually shutting down society in the process. Which, "shockingly" allowed the Democrats to control the one aspect of an election they couldn't fully control prior to. Turn out. With the entire population of many, many states being allowed and encouraged to vote from home by mail, those voters didn't have to "turn out" to the polls. In fact, they didn't even have to vote. They could just give their paper to the harvester who paid them a few bucks for it and let the organization who employed the harvester to vote for them.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think mail-in voting has been curbed in many of the swing states. The guise of an "emergency" ushered in a new way to steal an election...by just filling out a piece of paper for someone...even if that someone had know idea it was being done for them.
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