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Offseason Topic: why does Louisiana HS football struggle to produce OL?

Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
826 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:02 pm
I have been removed from home state and the Friday night lights for over 2 decades now but have been wondering why LA prep doesn’t have more top tier OL talent akin to the talented skills player the state cranks oit year after year.

Does this stem from putting the most athletic kid at QB and the playbook reads “throw to the open receiver if no one open run”?

Would this be something that LSU could work with HS coaches to develop better OL talent?

Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12217 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:05 pm to
I assume it’s because we produce short fat people in Louisiana.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55661 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:16 pm to
Because def end and def tackle make up two of the top 7 highest paid positions in the NFL and we produce the athletes who can play those positions
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26160 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:27 pm to
Too many French and Spanish ancestors. Short people.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14025 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Too many French and Spanish ancestors. Short people.

Not enough Germans
Posted by DaBull
DaSunset, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
166 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:24 pm to
Gumbo with lots of rice
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
8606 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:47 pm to
Not the first in this thread to say it.

We produce shorter people.

State also produces faster people. But we are short.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84415 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:55 am to
Does this stem from putting the most athletic kid at QB and the playbook reads “throw to the open receiver if no one open run”?No, that's the QB problem.

quote:

develop better OL talent?
This isn't the problem.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25108 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:58 am to
I always assumed it was the caliber of QB we get down here. Not a lot of passer types and most are “dual threat” so takes the emphasis away from stout o lines.

Never considered it being short fatasses … makes sense though.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 5:59 am
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11436 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:10 am to
OL requires more intelligence. This is Louisiana. Need I say more?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17671 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:27 am to
There's plenty out there in both N and S LA with the size. The gene pool does limit that volume a little, but we have plenty with the frames to be putting out more top rated OL than we do.

The problem, to me, is two fold:

1. There's several out there every year that go on to be Div I starters who were never on our radar because with our population density in places where the gene pool is not limiting is quite low. We, like every where else, have integrated school districts. Unlike other states however we didn't aggressively force the majority of smaller schools into these massive conglomerated schools. So LA still have many more small schools as compared to other states that just don't get coverage and they go unnoticed until they show up on Kipers draft rankings. But this has a role to play in #2, which is our primary problem....

2. High School coaching is the real reason. For OL it sucks arse. Part of that is the small schools, hence small budgets and small staffs. Many high schools do not have anyone on staff that remotely qualifies as an OL coach. So what you get is the guys with the size simply just physically dominate their smaller DL brethren without any real training. And I'm including training along with technique. So when these big guys go into camps against a DL from Katy or some big school they are, literally, untrained speed bumps and look horrible. We not only do not produce OL who have a head start, in many cases we are in a skills deficit because they weren't trained in the art of being a big athletic guy. They were just relied on as a big guy.
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
6230 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:30 am to
Not too many people in La. with east european genes
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
25181 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:14 am to
quote:

High School coaching is the real reason. For OL it sucks arse. Part of that is the small schools

OL specialty camps should be big business here. Someone needs to get on that.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1944 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:27 am to
Genetics like most have mentioned is the main reason. We have some tall big men that aren’t obese but very few relative to other parts of the country.
Posted by OSTiger10
Fountainbleau, MS
Member since Nov 2012
155 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:46 am to
Same issue with Basketball... not many 6'7" to 6'10" players running around in the South
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1997 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:00 am to
Because too many trips to Canes and not enough cornbread and peas at home. Take a look at them boys from Ohio and Nebraska.
Posted by tigersnip
Member since Aug 2004
727 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:09 am to
Back in the day, Charles McClendon said it was a problem. The Bandits were small but quick...one year... when playing N.D. a comparison was shown on TV and LSU looked like a HS junior team....but the team won with speed.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59978 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Because def end and def tackle make up two of the top 7 highest paid positions in the NFL and we produce the athletes who can play those positions


That wasn’t always the case however and historically the state hasn’t produced a lot of great OL
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
9541 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:15 am to
Red beans and rice and gumbo
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:19 am to
Because they usually play defense. Just the last two years, Maason Smith & Quency Wiggins would be great OL prospects

And the state has had a decent track record given it’s size, anyway.
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