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Offseason Topic: why does Louisiana HS football struggle to produce OL?
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:02 pm
I have been removed from home state and the Friday night lights for over 2 decades now but have been wondering why LA prep doesn’t have more top tier OL talent akin to the talented skills player the state cranks oit year after year.
Does this stem from putting the most athletic kid at QB and the playbook reads “throw to the open receiver if no one open run”?
Would this be something that LSU could work with HS coaches to develop better OL talent?
Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen.
Does this stem from putting the most athletic kid at QB and the playbook reads “throw to the open receiver if no one open run”?
Would this be something that LSU could work with HS coaches to develop better OL talent?
Thanks, I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:05 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
I assume it’s because we produce short fat people in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:16 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
Because def end and def tackle make up two of the top 7 highest paid positions in the NFL and we produce the athletes who can play those positions
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:27 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
Too many French and Spanish ancestors. Short people.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:29 pm to TBoy
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Too many French and Spanish ancestors. Short people.
Not enough Germans
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:24 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
Gumbo with lots of rice
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:47 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
Not the first in this thread to say it.
We produce shorter people.
State also produces faster people. But we are short.
We produce shorter people.
State also produces faster people. But we are short.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:55 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Does this stem from putting the most athletic kid at QB and the playbook reads “throw to the open receiver if no one open run”?No, that's the QB problem.
quote:This isn't the problem.
develop better OL talent?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:58 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
I always assumed it was the caliber of QB we get down here. Not a lot of passer types and most are “dual threat” so takes the emphasis away from stout o lines.
Never considered it being short fatasses … makes sense though.
Never considered it being short fatasses … makes sense though.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 5:59 am
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:10 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
OL requires more intelligence. This is Louisiana. Need I say more?
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:27 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
There's plenty out there in both N and S LA with the size. The gene pool does limit that volume a little, but we have plenty with the frames to be putting out more top rated OL than we do.
The problem, to me, is two fold:
1. There's several out there every year that go on to be Div I starters who were never on our radar because with our population density in places where the gene pool is not limiting is quite low. We, like every where else, have integrated school districts. Unlike other states however we didn't aggressively force the majority of smaller schools into these massive conglomerated schools. So LA still have many more small schools as compared to other states that just don't get coverage and they go unnoticed until they show up on Kipers draft rankings. But this has a role to play in #2, which is our primary problem....
2. High School coaching is the real reason. For OL it sucks arse. Part of that is the small schools, hence small budgets and small staffs. Many high schools do not have anyone on staff that remotely qualifies as an OL coach. So what you get is the guys with the size simply just physically dominate their smaller DL brethren without any real training. And I'm including training along with technique. So when these big guys go into camps against a DL from Katy or some big school they are, literally, untrained speed bumps and look horrible. We not only do not produce OL who have a head start, in many cases we are in a skills deficit because they weren't trained in the art of being a big athletic guy. They were just relied on as a big guy.
The problem, to me, is two fold:
1. There's several out there every year that go on to be Div I starters who were never on our radar because with our population density in places where the gene pool is not limiting is quite low. We, like every where else, have integrated school districts. Unlike other states however we didn't aggressively force the majority of smaller schools into these massive conglomerated schools. So LA still have many more small schools as compared to other states that just don't get coverage and they go unnoticed until they show up on Kipers draft rankings. But this has a role to play in #2, which is our primary problem....
2. High School coaching is the real reason. For OL it sucks arse. Part of that is the small schools, hence small budgets and small staffs. Many high schools do not have anyone on staff that remotely qualifies as an OL coach. So what you get is the guys with the size simply just physically dominate their smaller DL brethren without any real training. And I'm including training along with technique. So when these big guys go into camps against a DL from Katy or some big school they are, literally, untrained speed bumps and look horrible. We not only do not produce OL who have a head start, in many cases we are in a skills deficit because they weren't trained in the art of being a big athletic guy. They were just relied on as a big guy.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 7:30 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Not too many people in La. with east european genes
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:14 am to I20goon
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High School coaching is the real reason. For OL it sucks arse. Part of that is the small schools
OL specialty camps should be big business here. Someone needs to get on that.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:27 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Genetics like most have mentioned is the main reason. We have some tall big men that aren’t obese but very few relative to other parts of the country.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 8:46 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Same issue with Basketball... not many 6'7" to 6'10" players running around in the South
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:00 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Because too many trips to Canes and not enough cornbread and peas at home. Take a look at them boys from Ohio and Nebraska.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:09 am to OSTiger10
Back in the day, Charles McClendon said it was a problem. The Bandits were small but quick...one year... when playing N.D. a comparison was shown on TV and LSU looked like a HS junior team....but the team won with speed.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:13 am to LSUfan4444
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Because def end and def tackle make up two of the top 7 highest paid positions in the NFL and we produce the athletes who can play those positions
That wasn’t always the case however and historically the state hasn’t produced a lot of great OL
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:15 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Red beans and rice and gumbo
Posted on 1/30/22 at 9:19 am to HoustonTigerNKaty
Because they usually play defense. Just the last two years, Maason Smith & Quency Wiggins would be great OL prospects
And the state has had a decent track record given it’s size, anyway.
And the state has had a decent track record given it’s size, anyway.
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