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You can't make somebody want a job they don't want.

Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6571 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:54 pm
Unless, of course, you overpay by a ton. In which case you've got a coach who is only in it for the money.

There were only 2 elite candidates this year, and it is obvious that neither wants this job.

Top 5 job my arse. If we were a top 5 job, we would have the best coaches in America falling all over themselves to get it. Where are they?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

There were only 2 elite candidates this year, and it is obvious that neither wants this job

It is?
Posted by diehardfan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
5333 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:55 pm to
Thank God you started this thread, it's so helpful
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10691 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:56 pm to
What a dumbass post
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

If we were a top 5 job, we would have the best coaches in America falling all over themselves to get it. Where are they?




Who says they weren't? One thing entire episode has proven is that the average fan doesn't know jack shite about the coaching search.
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:57 pm to
Alleva set his sights very low, after Jimbo. This is completely on him not doing the legwork to find someone that would take the job.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56402 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:57 pm to
quote:


There were only 2 elite candidates this year, and it is obvious that neither wants this job
.

Its not obvious that Herman doesn't want the job...at all.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98145 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:58 pm to
Alleva painted himself into a corner with only Herman and Fisher. There are other promising guys out there we apparently didn't seriously approach.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4341 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:59 pm to
You can still hire a good coach. It doesn't have to be home run hire or promote the d line coach. Other guys may not be sexy but are far more successful running programs than Orgeron and could be great at LSU with the recruiting base.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43793 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 4:59 pm to
LSU isn't competing with some scrub school for these guys. It's fricking Texas and Florida State. These are three top 10ish jobs competing for 2 guys. Someone is going to get left out.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28558 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:00 pm to
All of the other 306,731 threads on this topic haven't quite hit the nail on the head, but this one...this one...is the one that needed to be made. Thank you OP.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17873 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:00 pm to
I think it's a top 5 job clearly if... if.... Saban is not at Bama crushing dreams left and right. I think that comes into play with some candidates.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43793 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:01 pm to
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Jon Ham



If you're going to post that shite in every thread just go to another board.

Problem solved.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54063 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:01 pm to
How is it obvious neither wants the job?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8181 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

LSU isn't competing with some scrub school for these guys. It's fricking Texas and Florida State. These are three top 10ish jobs competing for 2 guys. Someone is going to get left out.


Seriously. The problem was Alleva getting into a three team race with two of the other 10 schools that can compete with. Why wasn't he vetting Gundy, or Fuente, or anyone? Jesus Christ
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Its not obvious that Herman doesn't want the job...at all.


Are you trying to say it is obvious?

If so why is that? Because he he might be trying to maximize his money?
Posted by martiansgohome
Maryland
Member since Feb 2004
4650 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

There were only 2 elite candidates this year, and it is obvious that neither wants this job.


Based on random board posts? lol This isn't 1999, if LSU calls any coach is going to listen. But like any hire, there are many things that must fall into place for it to be a good fit (financials, power arrangement, fundraising role, etc...)

I do agree with your original premise though. If Herman wants Texas, he should wait to hear them out and we should move on. Who knows whats really happening though.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

You can still hire a good coach. It doesn't have to be home run hire or promote the d line coach. Other guys may not be sexy but are far more successful running programs than Orgeron and could be great at LSU with the recruiting base.


THIS.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56402 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:04 pm to
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Are you trying to say it is obvious?


No.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4468 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 5:05 pm to
The original post is full of indefensibly stupid inferences and assumptions.

First, when it comes to Herman and Fisher, we are trying to woo them away from other premier Top 5/10 coaching jobs, namely FSU and Texas. A failure to get either isn't proof that LSU isn't a desirable coaching position itself. Second, although you can't "make" anyone take a job, the athletic director is supposed to be an advocate who persuades and attracts desirable candidates. It isn't a hard sell with LSU. Alleva has failed to be an effective advocate if we don't hire an accomplished coach. Third, how do you know Herman doesn't want the job at this point? Fourth, there are undoubtedly other talented coaches in America who would love the job, but we've conducted a fairly narrow search, it appears.

Tired of our moronic, self-loathing fans.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 5:11 pm
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