re: What is the appeal for the Auburn job?

Wasn’t visiting high schools, many AL HS coaches had never met him
When he would schedule visits, there were times Auburn coaches would no show
Showed up late to big games
Showed up 2 hours late to pick up a recruit and his family at the ATL airport
Harsin went MIA while a recruit was on an official and he and his family never met with him
Most recruits don’t know him well enough to know his name, so they call him Haskins, Harrison etc…its a running joke.
The coaches that were actually making an effort were handcuffed and overruled..example, Quinshon Judkins would have crawled to AU but Harsin wouldn’t let Caddy take him.
Nasty to the beat reporters, Potato gang coaches did not engage and would make snide comments about them being there to report on recruit visits
Isolated the AU/non Boise coaches
Planned a JR day event too late and they had to give 100 tickets to former bball players and family for the biggest game of the year last year, AU v UK

That is the Cliff Notes, there is more. You tell me, does that sound like solid recruiting?

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What is the appeal for the Auburn job?

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Bc at Auburn, a guy like Malzahn can:

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Took Auburn to a national championship after one of their worst seasons ever, won the SEC West twice

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What is the appeal for the Auburn job?

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Hump all the cows you want.

Retirement money, large fanbase

Boosters are probably one of the biggest problems and one of the biggest resources in college football. Unlike the pros wherein you have certain limitations financially, college football does not. Wealthy boosters can create an arms race with no real concern for the bottom line . Of course the bottom line is a championship but if you keep paying coaches exorbitant salaries and ex- coaches exorbitant payouts not to coach, it should start to become a problem.

So long as you can call people like Jimmy Rane, etc. to cover up bad decisions or existential problems by throwing money at it, college football as a whole will have diminishing returns for most except a small number of schools.

The early retirement package, mostly.

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4 teams in the Sec Bama, LSU, Auburn, & GA.

Everyone else may get lucky.
They were hot or got hot at the right time. Yeah Auburns not at the top right now and Georgia has performed way better themselves. But those 4 are just consistently good at football

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wrong its BAMA & LSU in the west and UGA & UF in the east.

with the way things are with recruiting, those are the big dogs and frankly have been for most of this century. Sure AU and UT can make a run and are certainly above the rest but they are not in the same tier as those 4 in respect to ability to win championships and sustain success.

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The point was he wasn't recruiting because he gave up since Auburn made sure he was a failure so that he would get fired. That is where it went wrong. I am not 100 percent if that is what really happened. Someone did something bad to Harsin or Harsin did something bad. I am not sure who started the backstabbing.
The one thing puzzled me is why did Harsin refuse to recruit and/or visit HS coaches? Something must have happened to him to make him not go visit HS coaches. Might it be he just quit right there because someone did something bad to him or he knew he was screwed because of something he didn't know what to do and/or someone else threaten him in a way to get him to quit or get fired. This is one strange hired and then a quick fired for sure!

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or it could be that he just doesnt understand what big time recruiting takes.

what the guy described is almost exactly what was said about scott frost before they finally canned him. He struggled with work life balance and wasnt as committed to the job like it takes to win at the highest level. He wanted to spend lots of time with his kids....i suspect harsin is much the same way and as a father i 100% respect that. just have to understand that is where you are in life an accept it. I did it in my own career couple years ago.

now with that being said...If i had the ability to make the kind of money the auburn coach will be making...would take that trade off in a heart beat.

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What is the appeal for the Auburn job?

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this is not hard to figure out

1) can win a chamionship there especially if things break your way and saban retires in the next 3-4 seasons

2) all the resources you could want in a recruit rich part of the country

3) win, lose, draw...your family is set up for generations. you essentially are guranteed generational wealth when you leave no matter what.

A good coach can win SEC at Auburn.

Since 1992:
Undefeated seasons: 1993,2004,2010
SEC titles: 2004,2010,2013
SECWest rep: 1997,2000,2004,2010,2013,2017

The above resume makes it better than most jobs in the country. Auburn is certainly a top 15 job by performance, revenue, etc.

It is true that Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Florida are probably “easier” paths, but a coach can win big at Auburn.