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re: UM Rivals: Strong feeling Hoke to Michigan (ETA: post now deleted)

Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by TheCommish
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:09 pm to
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And what makes you think that Les will find someone that will be a spread guy?


I don't. But, haven't heard Loeffler tied to him like I have to Hoke. So, perhaps wishful thinking.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26363 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:09 pm to
Since his automatic raise after winning the BCSCG in January 2008, Miles has averaged 9.33 wins per season at LSU, despite kicking his starting QB off the team in 2008, losing his all-star DC to Nebraska in 2008, and completely overhauling the defensive coaching staff in 2009.

This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93782 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

if we were replacing Les....would Hoke be in your top 5?


Based on his history and after watching the bowl game, absolutely.

I've been an advocate for a few months now.
Posted by um2007
Member since Nov 2009
283 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:10 pm to
Hoke also said the spread is basketball on grass. Aka we would be blowing up the team and starting from scratch again if he's hired. Aside from the fact that you don't usually jump from an SDSU to Michigan, that alone has most fans saying DO.NOT.WANT!
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22051 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:10 pm to
in this day and age, when bowl teams play 13+ games, winning % is a better gauge than number of wins...
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:11 pm to
Latest bulletin from my fevered imagination:

Miles to Michigan, with Hoke as his assistant/coach-in-waiting.
Posted by AquaMan2342
Muskegon, Michigan
Member since Jan 2011
133 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:13 pm to
Maybe I'm the only one who thinks Michigan can win in the short term with the right hire. They're incredibly young and have speed at every position. Again, with the right guy (and Denard staying obviously) I think they could continue an upward trajectory.
Posted by TheCommish
Member since Jan 2011
25 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:14 pm to
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After LSU, I root hardest for Michigan, and I think you have to look beyond what fits the current roster (which is nothing to write home about regardless of scheme) and get the coaching staff that will bring Michigan back to Big 10+ relevance within about 3-4 years. The short term is going to be rough regardless.


The better Michigan does next year, the easier the transition will go. Revamping the entire system like Rodriguez did makes everything exponentially harder. Not to mention brings into question attrition by all 3 scholarship QBs.

We are still talking about a 7 win team that returns 20 of 22 starters.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127493 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:14 pm to
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Aside from the fact that you don't usually jump from an SDSU to Michigan, that alone has most fans saying DO.NOT.WANT!



Ohio St. took a chance on someone from Youngstown St.

It sure worked well.
Posted by AquaMan2342
Muskegon, Michigan
Member since Jan 2011
133 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:15 pm to
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Ohio St. took a chance on someone from Youngstown St.


Exception, meet rule. Rule, exception.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:17 pm to
Outside of maybe 1 or 2 guys in the nation, I'm not sure anyone will succeed at Michigan right now.

And it has little to do with personnel etc. It's more about this powerplay at Michigan and all the factions going at one another and wanting different things. Very hard for a program to excel when all arms aren't pulling in the same direction.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:17 pm to
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and completely overhauling the defensive coaching staff in 2009.


meh

the staff that he put together which failed miserably.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158799 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:17 pm to
not mine dude....not mine

I also find his flat out begging for this job is a tad disrespectful to his current employers. Yea I get its a big time upgrade, but come on....
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93782 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

I also find his flat out begging for this job is a tad disrespectful to his current employers. Yea I get its a big time upgrade, but come on....


I haven't seen any of that.

One thing we can agree on is that the choices out there are slim and with a recruiting class like LSU is pulling in right now, this is probably the worst time Michigan would be coming looking for a coach.

...and mark me down for not wanting Pelini. He just doesn't seem like the coach kids beat down the door to play for....rep for not being the best recruiter..... meh.

ETA: Not saying any of the begging didn't happen. I just literally have not seen any of it.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:33 pm
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

mark me down for not wanting Pelini.


Absolutely! His temperament is ideal for a DC. Not so much for a HC at a top tier program.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26363 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:52 pm to
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Absolutely! His temperament is ideal for a DC. Not so much for a HC at a top tier program.



Totally agree with this. I think Pelini is a good coach, but he's certainly not my top choice to replace Miles.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158799 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:52 pm to
Pelini>>>>Hoke
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26363 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:57 pm to
Also, no one has mentioned it yet, but does anyone else find it strange that Brandon has been in Arizona the last two days in the midst of his biggest chore since taking over as Michigan's AD.

In case you didn't watch ESPN yesterday, there is very high profile national title-winning coach also in Arizona right now. One that tends to hop around every 4-5 years.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:58 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127493 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

there is very high profile national title-winning coach also in Arizona right now.



But Notre Dame was Meyer's dream job.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11418 posts
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:01 pm to
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Pelini>>>>Hoke


I would agree because of the the turnaround he made at a BCS school. However, I don't care for the way he handles himself.
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