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re: UM Rivals: Strong feeling Hoke to Michigan (ETA: post now deleted)
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:58 am to TheCommish
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:58 am to TheCommish
There's always been conflicting stuff that Minnesota wasn't even interested enough in him to interview him, and then there's what you heard.
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:59 am to JPLSU1981
how many sec championships has he won since 2007?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 11:59 am to AquaMan2342
I didn't read through this whole thread.
What's the apparent knock on Hoke that seems to be the problem?
The guy has turned both programs around and has won everyone. He led Ball St. to an undefeated record and turned SD. St. around in 2 years.
What's the problem?????
What's the apparent knock on Hoke that seems to be the problem?
The guy has turned both programs around and has won everyone. He led Ball St. to an undefeated record and turned SD. St. around in 2 years.
What's the problem?????
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:00 pm to Factsman
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how many sec championships has he won since 2007?
How many NCs has the SEC won since 07?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:01 pm to TN Bhoy
ok, how many times has he won the west since then?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:01 pm to nycajun
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AquaMan, why do you feel this way?
The Michigan program is so enamored with itself that it's willing to hire a lower tier candidate just because he has ties to the program. That is my biggest fear and the program itself is its biggest enemy.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:02 pm to Factsman
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how many sec championships has he won since 2007?
2007 - Miles/LSU
2008 - Meyer/Florida
2009 - Saban/Alabama
2010 - Chizik/Auburn
Since 2007, Les Miles has the exact same number of SEC Championships as Urban Meyer and Nick Saban (1). Your comment might have some substance had Les Miles never won a SEC Championship at LSU, but he has, so your point is moot for now.
All of this is beside the point, though. I'm not going to defend Miles' success ... everyone knows how successful he has been, that is not even up for debate because it is a fact that he's been tremendously successful at LSU.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:02 pm to JPLSU1981
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Miles has had tremendous success at LSU, and anyone with a brain knows this to be true.
I happen to agree with the first part of your statement. I don't agree with the second part, because there are lots of commentators whose opinions are usually pretty sound who enjoy making Les the butt of their jokes. If I'm Michigan, I steer clear because if he turns out not to be able to fix it (whether it's his fault or not) the "You should have known better" crowd will have a field day. As an LSU alum, season ticket holder and fan (who also has a Michigan degree) I fervently hope he's at LSU for the next 20 years.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:02 pm to Prominentwon
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He led Ball St. to an undefeated record
Undefeated in conference play, but they lost one game.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:03 pm to AquaMan2342
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The Michigan program is so enamored with itself that it's willing to hire a lower tier candidate just because he has ties to the program. That is my biggest fear and the program itself is its biggest enemy.
That sound like bama before they threw the bank at $abun
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:04 pm to JPLSU1981
since he got the raise i meant
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:04 pm to Prominentwon
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What's the apparent knock on Hoke that seems to be the problem?
My biggest concern is that I think he'd hire Scot Loeffler as his OC. Don't get me wrong, I like Scot. But, he's a pro style guy. And that doesn't fit the current roster. Thus making a tough transition more difficult.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:06 pm to TheCommish
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I like Scot. But, he's a pro style guy. And that doesn't fit the current roster. Thus making a tough transition more difficult.
And what makes you think that Les will find someone that will be a spread guy?
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:06 pm to MoreOrLes
Throwing the bank is what makes me confident. I would honestly be shocked if LSU outbids Michigan. Brandon has made it clear he's ready to pay top dollar for the next coach and we have boosters galore.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:06 pm to OBUDan
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Undefeated in conference play, but they lost one game.
Nevertheless
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:06 pm to TheCommish
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But, he's a pro style guy. And that doesn't fit the current roster. Thus making a tough transition more difficult.
Any coach Michigan hires is going to go through a tough transition after what RichRod recruited there.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:07 pm to Prominentwon
They crumbled after he left too... Hoke is compiling a nice resume, but I think there's a lot more he needs to prove before he's a slam dunk hire for a top 10 program of all time.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:07 pm to TheCommish
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I like Scot. But, he's a pro style guy. And that doesn't fit the current roster. Thus making a tough transition more difficult.
After LSU, I root hardest for Michigan, and I think you have to look beyond what fits the current roster (which is nothing to write home about regardless of scheme) and get the coaching staff that will bring Michigan back to Big 10+ relevance within about 3-4 years. The short term is going to be rough regardless.
This post was edited on 1/10/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:07 pm to OBUDan
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They crumbled after he left too..
Just proves, IMO, what kind of job he was doing.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 12:08 pm to Prominentwon
if we were replacing Les....would Hoke be in your top 5?
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